EVE General Discussion

In the Eve universe, your allowed to do pretty much anything you please.

My question is this : why is it ok and deemed ok to scam someone out of millions or billions of isk but its not ok to get annoyed and be rather verbal to that person be it about racism, sexual orientation etc.

Its is quite normal to think nasty things after you've been scammed. Some people even voice those opinions yet if petitioned we are warned about it yet scamming is always working as intended.

I have not been scammed but I think in a sandbox its either strike first and get the kill or die. Its a dog eat dog world. If scamming is ok I think "everything" should be ok.

Scamming in my opinion is only done by the absolute lowest forms of life. Its like taking a childs ice cream Its something you just wouldnt do unless you had a screw loose in the head. Maybe not firing on all cylinders.

But they had mint chocolate chip! I LOVE mint chocolate chip! That is why I took it.

To be tricked, scammed, played, is just a game.
To get overly upset, verbal, racist, sexist, raging is getting personal and needs to chill out. Go outside, and have a smoke.

I will have you know, SIR, that when one of my car's cylinders misfired it resulted in a VERY nasty crash that left me with a loose screw embedded in my cranium! I still have nightmares! How could you be so inconsiderate!

Petitioned!

TriadSte, I can understand where your coming from, but scamming is something that although not necessarily built into the mechanics, follows along with the sandbox feel. To be honest, there are many other ways that a victim of a scam can seek his revenge. This may be via military action, or even in other ways. Many people resort to verbal reactions out of frustration, but there are many other ways of doing so. To be honest, spamming vs racism/sexism isnt really a fair... comparison, know what i mean?

On another note, for CCP to effectively control chat (voice or text) in Eve, to watch for and take action against sexism/racism it would be difficult. Now on the other hand, Corp names, Alliance Names tickers etc could be something they could control. The other option could be through a ticket system where pilots could report others saying things of this matter and then go from there. Probably warning then escalation kinda idea.

I don't see any correlation.
Scamming is part of the game, it's based on social engenieering, manipulation, knowledge of the game and so on; is inside the borders of the game mechanics and setting. Can be an unpleaseable outcome, but still is a game outcome, same as when one get mad for loosing a ship.

Racism, verbal harrassing and so on is a totally different matter. Has nothing to do with the game, it only uses the game tools to haul some out of game harrassment, prejudice, frustration....

Usually verbal PvP doesn't involve shooting things... maybe later irl but not in-game

EVE permits every form of in-game villainy. But bringing in real life conflicts and bigotry is, as should be obvious, a no-no. In short: my character can do anything that he can get away with to your character (and vice-versa, of course). But there are very strict limits on what I can do to you. CCP's rules aren't there to make us play nice characters, only to be nice people.

The important distinction is that if I scam you out of everything in game, then you can escape the consequences of that by simply closing the client: Poof! Your losses - and my "crime" - are now as meaningless as losing a piece in a game of checkers. But I think you'll agree that anyone who started spewing racial epithets or making real life threats because he lost a piece in a game of checkers had failed to understand something very important about playing competitive games.

I can't answer your question without knowing more about what you said after you got scammed.

When a player gets scammed, the "victim" has two options - pay attention to what they're agreeing to, or benefit from training lazy, stupid and greedy to V. It's not like real life, where someone can sell you a convincing fake. Show info and looking things up on the market, together with a good dose of common sense, are all you really need. Are you really saying people should be protected?