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"Forcing People to Leave the Game" and "Forcing a Specific Playstyle"

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KrakizBad
Section 8.
#181 - 2012-11-03 01:23:41 UTC
"Don't go to null or we will make fun of your drinks."
White Quake
Doomheim
#182 - 2012-11-03 01:24:36 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
The belligerent undesirables will be pushed out and then the game will be for everyone. Smile


no it wont

the industry and pve players will leave and the market will crash and the game shortly after that

if any of u idiot pvp pilots think otherwise

your a damn fool
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#183 - 2012-11-03 01:38:35 UTC
White Quake wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
The belligerent undesirables will be pushed out and then the game will be for everyone. Smile


no it wont

the industry and pve players will leave and the market will crash and the game shortly after that

if any of u idiot pvp pilots think otherwise

your a damn fool

hurr if you're not nice we'll all just quit and then where will you be huh huh huh yeah thought so

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Gussarde en Welle
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#184 - 2012-11-03 04:19:04 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Azumi Zimu wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

Yet the high sec bears continue to try to get rid of playstyles they dont like.


You guys waged a campaign against high-sec miners. You used early 20th century Anti-Semitic propaganda. You said you hated what they stood for.

Not that I log in...

Keep up the hypocrisy space-nerds Cool

We did it for profit. Our words were mainly in responce to the bears who campained to remove our playstyle. We infact spent most of our time giving out fitting advice to avoid being killed by us. Unfortuntly, the bears did not listen and managed to convince CCP to more or less kill off our playstyle.


You keep saying this baltec. Enlighten me, as I am new. Carebears did what exactly to kill your playstyle?
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
#185 - 2012-11-03 04:37:32 UTC
White Quake wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
The belligerent undesirables will be pushed out and then the game will be for everyone. Smile


no it wont

the industry and pve players will leave and the market will crash and the game shortly after that

if any of u idiot pvp pilots think otherwise

your a damn fool


you define yourself as a "pvp player", but i'm sure you mean "ship-to-ship pvp combat player". I don't think your line of work deals with supply and demand.

if all indy players leave tomorrow, the demand will grow so high that new industrialists will come replace the hole. Imagine T1 ammo becoming so scarce you can sell it for 1000x it's manufacturing costs. Trust me, if it ever gets to that, the market will re-adjust itself as all of us can manufacture and seed the market.
Ryhss
#186 - 2012-11-03 13:37:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Ryhss
You all will stop posting in this thread and let it die.

I just turned into an egg, did I level up? I spent an hour trying to salvage a wreck, when in local a guy said "Stop it, this is my Tempest, I was AFK"
Roderick Grey
Koenigsbergers
#187 - 2012-11-03 14:16:24 UTC
Dar Manic wrote:


yeah. gotz meh tharz!!

Go ask on a random forum board of gamers to play a PvP game where you fight with selling and trading. They'd laugh you out in a heartbeat. You are using the general term PvP to mean something specific for your own needs.


Have you ever been involved in sov warfare? Who's currently the most successful coalition in Eve? Are they poor? Do you know what a war of attrition is? Or the ways it can be used?


Dar Manic wrote:
You are using the general term PvP to mean something specific for your own needs.


So let me get this straight, me saying pvp is players competing against players in all formats is me spinning it specifically to my own means. Yet you saying pvp is only related to ship-to-ship combat isn't?

Please tell me you see the flaw in your logic.

“We could learn a lot from crayons; some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, while others bright, some have weird names, but they all have learned to live together in the same box.” - Special needs division of Fcon.
Dar Manic
Dirt Road Services
#188 - 2012-11-03 21:48:52 UTC
Roderick Grey wrote:
Dar Manic wrote:


yeah. gotz meh tharz!!

Go ask on a random forum board of gamers to play a PvP game where you fight with selling and trading. They'd laugh you out in a heartbeat. You are using the general term PvP to mean something specific for your own needs.


Have you ever been involved in sov warfare? Who's currently the most successful coalition in Eve? Are they poor? Do you know what a war of attrition is? Or the ways it can be used?


Dar Manic wrote:
You are using the general term PvP to mean something specific for your own needs.


So let me get this straight, me saying pvp is players competing against players in all formats is me spinning it specifically to my own means. Yet you saying pvp is only related to ship-to-ship combat isn't?

Please tell me you see the flaw in your logic.


Look through the forums and see what skills are talked about when a player wants to learn pvp. Nothing more need be said.

I just don't understand null sec players.

**Please note: **Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up. Thank you.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#189 - 2012-11-03 22:06:41 UTC
Dar Manic wrote:
Look through the forums and see what skills are talked about when a player wants to learn pvp. Nothing more need be said.

No matter how much you're sticking your thumbs in your ears going "LA LA LA I CANNAE HEAR YOU", PVP isn't just PVP where ships go boom, instead the PVP where ships go boom is a subtype of PVP more commonly called combat PVP. You still have a ton of various types of PVP, some of them don't even involve logging in to the client.

TL/DR: You're artificially limiting the definition of PVP and calling that the One True Version of PVP, and you're wrong. Deal with it.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#190 - 2012-11-03 22:36:15 UTC
Gussarde en Welle wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Azumi Zimu wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

Yet the high sec bears continue to try to get rid of playstyles they dont like.


You guys waged a campaign against high-sec miners. You used early 20th century Anti-Semitic propaganda. You said you hated what they stood for.

Not that I log in...

Keep up the hypocrisy space-nerds Cool

We did it for profit. Our words were mainly in responce to the bears who campained to remove our playstyle. We infact spent most of our time giving out fitting advice to avoid being killed by us. Unfortuntly, the bears did not listen and managed to convince CCP to more or less kill off our playstyle.


You keep saying this baltec. Enlighten me, as I am new. Carebears did what exactly to kill your playstyle?


They got CCP to impliment an unnessesary EHP buff on macks because they refused to fit a tank. They also gave it a bay so big it wiped out jetcan baiting over night.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#191 - 2012-11-03 22:37:50 UTC
Dar Manic wrote:

Look through the forums and see what skills are talked about when a player wants to learn pvp. Nothing more need be said.


What words does PVP stand for?
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#192 - 2012-11-03 22:42:28 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Dar Manic wrote:

Look through the forums and see what skills are talked about when a player wants to learn pvp. Nothing more need be said.


What words does PVP stand for?


pinche viejo pendejo Straight

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny
Roderick Grey
Koenigsbergers
#193 - 2012-11-04 05:18:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Roderick Grey
Dar Manic wrote:
Roderick Grey wrote:
Dar Manic wrote:


yeah. gotz meh tharz!!

Go ask on a random forum board of gamers to play a PvP game where you fight with selling and trading. They'd laugh you out in a heartbeat. You are using the general term PvP to mean something specific for your own needs.


Have you ever been involved in sov warfare? Who's currently the most successful coalition in Eve? Are they poor? Do you know what a war of attrition is? Or the ways it can be used?


Dar Manic wrote:
You are using the general term PvP to mean something specific for your own needs.


So let me get this straight, me saying pvp is players competing against players in all formats is me spinning it specifically to my own means. Yet you saying pvp is only related to ship-to-ship combat isn't?

Please tell me you see the flaw in your logic.


Look through the forums and see what skills are talked about when a player wants to learn pvp. Nothing more need be said.


Wow...

EDIT: I just noticed your sig, I'm assuming that you've realized how mistaken you are?

“We could learn a lot from crayons; some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, while others bright, some have weird names, but they all have learned to live together in the same box.” - Special needs division of Fcon.
Justice Comes
Doomheim
#194 - 2012-11-04 06:37:25 UTC
It really just depends how many players (money) CCP wants. We know the vast preponderance of people play in high-sec. The math is easy enough from there.

I give you this not-uncommon opinion from outside of New Eden:

"The problem is that EVE is a very self-selecting community, and frankly some of its devs and a good number of its high-profile players are the sort who only have fun at someone else's expense.

Consequently, too few folks in the larger MMO community want to play EVE. It's a game made by wolves, for wolves, and therefore it's quite limited in scope compared to a more well-rounded sandbox. Yes, EVE offers more potential than any other current MMO, but because of the personalities involved, that potential almost always translates into new and amazing ways to be an ass."

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/10/26/some-assembly-required-why-soe-should-be-leading-the-sandbox-ch/

So again, it just boils down to how many players they want :p

Most annoying thing of the week: You failed to dock/jump because you are cloaked (in your Deep Space Transport).
Dar Manic
Dirt Road Services
#195 - 2012-11-04 16:25:29 UTC
Roderick Grey wrote:
Dar Manic wrote:
Roderick Grey wrote:
Dar Manic wrote:


yeah. gotz meh tharz!!

Go ask on a random forum board of gamers to play a PvP game where you fight with selling and trading. They'd laugh you out in a heartbeat. You are using the general term PvP to mean something specific for your own needs.


Have you ever been involved in sov warfare? Who's currently the most successful coalition in Eve? Are they poor? Do you know what a war of attrition is? Or the ways it can be used?


Dar Manic wrote:
You are using the general term PvP to mean something specific for your own needs.


So let me get this straight, me saying pvp is players competing against players in all formats is me spinning it specifically to my own means. Yet you saying pvp is only related to ship-to-ship combat isn't?

Please tell me you see the flaw in your logic.


Look through the forums and see what skills are talked about when a player wants to learn pvp. Nothing more need be said.


Wow...

EDIT: I just noticed your sig, I'm assuming that you've realized how mistaken you are?


No, not at all. I'm assuming that you've realized how mistaken you are?

I just don't understand null sec players.

**Please note: **Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up. Thank you.
Dar Manic
Dirt Road Services
#196 - 2012-11-04 16:26:51 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Dar Manic wrote:

Look through the forums and see what skills are talked about when a player wants to learn pvp. Nothing more need be said.


What words does PVP stand for?


Look through the forums and see what skills are talked about when a player wants to learn pvp. Nothing more need be said.

I just don't understand null sec players.

**Please note: **Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up. Thank you.
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#197 - 2012-11-04 16:35:06 UTC
-"You don't need to spend 15$ per month to look at nebulae and 3D ship models."-

But i can and i will,suck it up..also a video game how about u chill up some,maybe get a life and all rest of memes.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#198 - 2012-11-04 16:37:28 UTC
Dar Manic wrote:
Look through the forums and see what skills are talked about when a player wants to learn pvp. Nothing more need be said.

No matter how much you're sticking your thumbs in your ears going "LA LA LA I CANNAE HEAR YOU", PVP isn't just PVP where ships go boom, instead the PVP where ships go boom is a subtype of PVP more commonly called combat PVP. You still have a ton of various types of PVP, some of them don't even involve logging in to the client.

You're artificially limiting the definition of PVP and calling that the One True Version of PVP, and you're wrong.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Karrl Tian
Doomheim
#199 - 2012-11-04 16:42:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Karrl Tian
baltec1 wrote:

They also gave it a bay so big it wiped out jetcan baiting over night.



And telling miners to "get friends for hauling/protection, use GSCs/don't take from the can" apparently was as much wasted effort as telling them to fit a tank.

It's like CCP knows that most miners are just isk-printing alts at this point and figures they might as well milk the money from getting more of them subbed.
Taraxon Taranogas
Doomheim
#200 - 2012-11-04 18:10:39 UTC
KrakizBad wrote:
"Don't go to null or we will make fun of your drinks."


Someone actually maintains a website called minerbumping? Hard core.