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CCP Focuses on EVE Universe - A CCP Announcement

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Cpt Arareb
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#201 - 2011-10-19 18:11:20 UTC
Aineko Macx wrote:
I am Jacks complete lack of surprise.
And it didn't have to be this way, like Hilmar finally noticed, there were plenty of warnings from all sides. I can't claim to be free of Schadenfreude for stubbornness and arrogance finally reaping the results. Too bad once more the little guy is punished by being fired for mistakes not committed by him.

Ofc the big question remaining is whether CCP will be able to reverse the negative trend in customer satisfaction and resulting declining subscriber numbers or not.


this ^

and I will like to quote Mr. Donald Trump

"is nothing personal is just business"

I sincerely hope the best for the ones leavingStraight
Vincent Gaines
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#202 - 2011-10-19 18:11:47 UTC
Rakshasa Taisab wrote:
Hakaru Ishiwara wrote:
Rakshasa Taisab wrote:
DUST is one of the better ideas CCP has had...
... Until they announced PS3 exclusivity.

Was completely stoked at the potential to play an EVE-related FPS title on either X-Box or [even better] PC when DUST was first announced 2 years ago.

Now? No thank you.

Go cry in a river of bitter, the PS3 platform is more than good enough. XBox was never an option, and PC FPS does not mix with console.

As a game to satisfy _YOUR_ personal preferences, it might suck ass. For a game that gets lots of players, it might suck a lot of ****.



No, the difference between a console and PC platform is persistence.

Sure, you get a nice FPS market. For a couple years. Then the console becomes obsolete- i.e. a PS4. Suddenly isn't on a new platform requiring a new overhaul to update the game. Dusties will have to purchase another iteration of DUST. Then again. And each time will lose players.

Compare it to a PC game which can last years if not longer because the underlying components can be upgraded without needing a complete hardware change on the consumer side.


The console can handle the game, but it'll be a flash in a pan, and then gone. I give it about a year after release before it's abondoned.

Not a diplo. 

The above post was edited for spelling.

Jokerface666
Intergalactic Expeditionary Corp
#203 - 2011-10-19 18:16:29 UTC
I'm actually glad to hear that,

a company need to get fresh blood and get rid of all the hot air, sometimes.
with the rate CCP grew, i am sure there were people employed who were just good at talking and making promises.

Yeah it is bad for the affected people, but i am also sure it is worth it.
Omega Tron
Edge Dancers
Pan-Intergalatic Business Community
#204 - 2011-10-19 18:16:33 UTC
To those CCP folks that will now have to leave I would like to wish you the very best of luck. You are without a dought the very best of the gaming development world.

To CCP Management you better do better in the future and never have to do this sort of action again. Otherwise, I will be joining the 5000+ that have left this game and you.

CCP's sand box is EVE Online.  The sand is owned by CCP.  We pay them a monthly fee to throw the sand at each other.  That is all that is here, so move along. Nothing more to be seen.

Solhild
Doomheim
#205 - 2011-10-19 18:16:41 UTC
Resubbing accounts and adding another soon Big smile
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#206 - 2011-10-19 18:17:08 UTC
Vincent Gaines wrote:


Sure, you get a nice FPS market. For a couple years.

Compare it to a PC game which can last years


Doh!

LOL

Mr Epeen Cool
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#207 - 2011-10-19 18:19:33 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
It boggles one's mind that CCP are sacking developers & community when it is the MANAGEMENT that should be let go.


gotta agree here. It wasnt the ppl's faults who are getting the axe that caused Hilmar to be all "See what they do not what they say"

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes

Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#208 - 2011-10-19 18:20:35 UTC
Solhild wrote:
Resubbing accounts and adding another soon Big smile


no troll meant but how does this have to do with the topic? Theyre firing 20% of their staff and thats good enough for you to resub?

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes

Kinroi Alari
Orbital Express LTD
Trystero GmbH
#209 - 2011-10-19 18:21:33 UTC

Best of luck to both those now looking elsewhere and to those at CCP working on making their goals a reality.
Dasola
New Edens Freeports
#210 - 2011-10-19 18:23:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Dasola
Just wondering how many developers from WoD will be assigned to eve from now on?

Glad to see that ccp management finally see the light, that player base has been trying to point out on them for so long.

Now 20% reduction on developer force? Does that also reflect equal 20% reduction on management staff as well? As in useless bosses that dont even know EvE we players love?

Hopeing thay by next summer we also get reworked corporate management with much more leaner access management, etc...

We are Minmatar, Our ship are made of scraps, but look what our scraps can do...

Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#211 - 2011-10-19 18:24:42 UTC
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
Solhild wrote:
Resubbing accounts and adding another soon Big smile


no troll meant but how does this have to do with the topic? Theyre firing 20% of their staff and thats good enough for you to resub?


If CCP made a statement that if X amount of people resubbed their accounts, people's jobs would be saved. I would resub several of mine.

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Jolteon Taylor
0 Tax Industrials
#212 - 2011-10-19 18:25:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Jolteon Taylor
Does anyone know which current CCP staff came from White Wolf, and thus, are likely the ones facing the chop?
Alpheias wrote:

If CCP made a statement that if X amount of people resubbed their accounts, people's jobs would be saved. I would resub several of mine.


Sure thing, me too. In these times, no one should be loosing their job.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#213 - 2011-10-19 18:30:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Epeen
Alpheias wrote:
It boggles one's mind that CCP are sacking developers & community when it is the MANAGEMENT that should be let go.


Agreed

CCP needs management that doesn't cower in fear of a few whiners threatening to quit.

Management that won't change direction every two weeks to try and suck up to a few entitled forum brats.

Mr EpeenCool
Midge Mo'yb
State War Academy
Caldari State
#214 - 2011-10-19 18:31:12 UTC
Jolteon Taylor wrote:
Great news for EVEs future, although such a shame it had to happen like this.

I do hope CCP_FallOut gets to keep her job. I do enjoy following her tweets \o/



http://www.almaroc.com/?p=1896

:(
Ugleb
Jotunn Risi
#215 - 2011-10-19 18:33:12 UTC
My best wishes to anyone I've ever met out there affected by this, and good luck to you if you are still waiting to hear news. I'm very much saddened to hear that things have come to this and hope that you all come back from this quickly and strongly.

To all those remaining at CCP, know that the community does hope that good things emerge from all this and that you will soon be joined by new or even returning colleagues as CCP and EVE returns to a stronger and surer footing.

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Jolteon Taylor
0 Tax Industrials
#216 - 2011-10-19 18:34:36 UTC
Midge Mo'yb wrote:
Jolteon Taylor wrote:
Great news for EVEs future, although such a shame it had to happen like this.

I do hope CCP_FallOut gets to keep her job. I do enjoy following her tweets \o/



http://www.almaroc.com/?p=1896

:(

O HELL NO. Fallout was totally the best community person. Totally gutted, she shouldn't be the one paying the price of CCPs runins with the community, not at all.
Endeavour Starfleet
#217 - 2011-10-19 18:35:38 UTC
I am very sorry to hear of job losses. That is not fun in the least.

However, I do have to say that sadly this is what happens when employees flat out ignore issues that effect the player base.

You ignored the players on Incarna and as a result thousands of paying accounts lapsed.

You continue to ignore AFK Cloaking and more than a few accounts have given up over that. Same with other issues that drive people out of nullsec and allow the big alliances to accumulate and hold great power allowing them to be very picky on who they allow into the club.

I would personally like to run 3-4 accounts. However, I am not going to do it when concerns don't even get a dev response even after topic after topic.

Show me what you will DO about these issues or atleast what the view of the DEV team is. And then ACT on them. And maybe JUST maybe the playerbase will be happy to increase sub count and allow you to do the rehires to make your World of Darkness game.
Demetri Slavic
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
#218 - 2011-10-19 18:35:44 UTC
This is ********.

The people that are being let go are the ones that were holding the community together, the ones that actually had the right idea.


Well done CCP, just as you were turning it arround you manage to shoot both your feet off.

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Covert Kitty
SRS Industries
#219 - 2011-10-19 18:37:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Covert Kitty
While it's important to feel solidarity with those who loose their jobs, it's vastly more important to get Eve back on the right track. Eve is after all the only real product CCP has. Unless your blizzard, and have vast sums of money, or are willing to leverage yourself into a potentially compromising position (which CCP may have already done), a serious shift in focus will mean cuts and re-purposing. So hearing that that is specifically what CCP plans on doing is in my opinion very good to hear.

It's important to note that CCP is raising the stakes here, it's hugely important that the coming expansions, improve the game significantly. I'm not in a position to judge CCP on who should be kept or let go, I'm just looking for results. I think that's the bottom line for most people.
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#220 - 2011-10-19 18:38:29 UTC
Midge Mo'yb wrote:
Jolteon Taylor wrote:
Great news for EVEs future, although such a shame it had to happen like this.

I do hope CCP_FallOut gets to keep her job. I do enjoy following her tweets \o/



http://www.almaroc.com/?p=1896

:(


So.

Obvioulsy Hillmar wishes to pass blame on all those who were involved on the forefront of the community management during the summer monoclegate, and poor Fallout was to blame as well? How is firing one of the most well known and respected community staff members going to help things?

And let me guess, CCP Pann kept her job?


Ridiculous.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.