EVE New Citizens Q&A

As a new player, the aim of this thread is to hopefully gain some knowledge and direction to getting a good start to becoming a PvP player in EVE.
I've used some BBcode on the text in a vein attempt to make my wall of text a little more readable for those who do choose to hear me out... it's still probably gonna crit you for over9000 so I apologise in advance - also for posting this within the wrong section, I have no excuse, it's not a mistake, I admit... it's deliberate! I hope I'll be forgiven.

I'm soon to be 21.. I'm from the UK - former small time drug dealer now a full time freelance graphic designer, I like marmite, onion and lemon juice sandwiches, I party a lot, and I'm currently healing a broken heart... attempting to relocate my balls and stick em back in the sack so I can move on from that witch lol...

Enough about my boring RL,

PvP is why I play games online, competing against and owning other players in a game is my bread & butter, I have experience in a fairly broad variation of games... FIFA, World of Warcraft, Battlefield, Counter Strike, Bloodline Champions, and a few others hardly worth a mention 'ahem cod 'ahem,

My main focus besides FIFA, has always been World of Warcraft, I joined somewhere midway through The Burning Crusade expansion, for the remainder of the expansion my time was spent learning the game and how to play it, transitioning from noob to player... then Wrath of the ***** king was released... I discovered my niche - PvP, I preferred open-world combat, and battlegrounds, but those options were limited for their own reasons and the main focus of the game become 3v3 arena, which I engaged in to a high standard for years to come....

Simply put, these days World of Warcraft fails to tickle my libido, for 101 reasons and more, I just don't enjoy the game anymore...

What I always fantasized about was finding a game which was really hardcore, where death had a serious penalty, a game where you always have to watch your back, a real cut-throat murderfest where it would be you the player who has to protect yourself from things like ganking, camping, scamming, trolling, and not care-bear mechanics doing that for you.... and recently I've discovered something I just can not believe...

For many years I've been aware of EVE's existence, but for some reason I was never drawn to come and check it out, but now here I am... and it turns out EVE is the game I have been fantasizing about for so many years, I feel I have WASTED by time playing games without playing this game.

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Now I'm here, I've been so exciting by the game, I've spent so much time reading about the many aspects of this game, partly just to saver the moment of actually playing lol - from the many styles of play I have researched, I am currently aiming to play a tackling role in some PvP, I'm on the brink of fitting my first rifter, I have all of the relevant skills trained for the fit I need, and soon my first rifter will be fitted ready to undock...

Currently, I'm unable to be self sufficient to sustain this style of play, I'm aware soloing isn't an option for me at this early stage, and there's a lot of development in other aspects of the game I need to endure to be able to carry my own weight and progress onto the roles I want to play.

That being said, in games I've always been much of a lone wolf, minding my own business, only really engaging with other players on a team basis, I've never been one to uphold a friends list or contribute to a guild/clan, when really it's something I've always longed for, I don't really have a reason for that never happening...?

I want to do it different in EVE, I'm aware that although EVE has it's trolls and things alike... at the end of the day this is a GOOD community, it's pretty much a ****** proof game and definitely appeals to an intelligent audience of people capable of conducting themselves in a respectable, social, and friendly way should they choose to do so, in many other games... that is quite a rare thing to find amongst the majority of players.

And that's one of the many things exciting me about EVE, knowing there's a huge community of high quality people playing this game, I think it's the incentive I've never had to actually make friends in an MMO.

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My aim now is to continue to learn the game, more specifically learn how to PvP in this game, I'd like to start out in small-gangs and fleets flying some rifters filling the role of tackler, that's where I'm focusing my skills at the moment...

I'm hoping to find a strong and friendly PvP corp to join, hopefully gain a helping hand to learn what I need to learn, form some friendships generally have a good time in EVE.

So as of now I'm definitely welcoming all of the help and advice I can get... I was actually hoping to join goonswarm but it turns out I won't be accepted.. which is fine, I'm aware of the reputation they have but at the end of the day is a thriving community having fun and that's what matters most...

I'm not aware of any other corps of the same nature that I may be accepted into as a new player learning the ropes, hopefully I'll find something and get off to a great start...

If you read all of that then you're a boss,

Appreciate any responses....' thaaaannnkkkkkinnnn you!

This thinking...you will find it to be invalid.

Welcome to Eve.

If your wanting to make a career out of PvP I would advise, straight off that you don't try and climb through the ship types. Don't aim to skill up for a Battleship. You wont get much use out of it, your skills wont be good enough to fly it effectively and it will cost you a fortune. You will quickly come to realise that Battleships aren't that useful in small gang PvP anyway. Also, learn a few skills in EWAR, tracking disruption is very good for new players in groups, because you can stop bigger ships from being able to hit you. Your Navigation skills are very important early on, and will continue to be important if you fly fast ships (and even if you don't).

Definitely find a small PvP corp, Your going to need people backing you up when you start to learn to PvP.

Also, PvP in Eve isn't just what modules to turn on and when to turn them on. A great deal of the skill in PvP comes from making sure the engagement starts in your favour. A good PvPer has basically won before he's even landed on grid with his enemy. Dont fight your battles to win, win and then start the battle. Get someone to show you through how to travel safely through unsafe space, it makes all the difference. Range control is very important.

Don't ever let anyone tell you that your useless as a new player. I've been talking with a few new players recently that are astonishing. One of them has already got two last hit kills after less than a week. One of them was on a very well fit Fleet Stabber in a small frigate gang recently.

Don't worry about ISK too much, fit cheap and small ships so that you can fit another one out when you get killed (which will happen). Destruction is inevitable in Eve, and it's a harsh game, so you need to learn to deal with disappointment at losing your ships. If you can find a small income, that's all you need. Better to lose lots of cheap ships early and then move onto the bigger ones later. That way you can worry about your income later aswell.

I too came for the PVP eliteness, space domination, and killmail whoring, ended up trapped in GD with people telling me EVE isn't at all about PVP eliteness, space domination, and killmail whoring, but rather mining while doing homework and smoking illicit substances. Now I'm confused!

:)

I can warmly recommend Red vs. Blue if you're looking to get into PvP.
They have a noobfleet -program for new players to learn, and people are really helpful. There's almost always some fleet fights going on, so you get the hang of fleet battle really quickly. And because there's so much fights all the time, you'll get rid of the "overexcitement" that seems to haunt many newbs on their first PvP fights.
For solo fighting, at first it's a good idea to try to fight other newbies and avoid getting eaten by vets, so you won't get frustrated.

You wont find as much PvP action anywhere in Eve. RvB is really good place to start your PvP journey.

If you're ever unsure of what to do in eve, here's something for ideas
http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/

Literally everything in this post is garbage. Goons, FA, RZR all spend a fair amount of time training newbies. But they are run on a personal interest basis, so its not like the training program is "structured" with classes and things like eve university. They take the time to explain things to you, and do run proper training fleet all the time where they will explain basic and advanced small gang pvp if needed. A hard core small gang pvp alliance is going to tell you to get lost as a newb because you'll be hurting their precious "killboard stats".

welcome. i'd suggest looking at the corp recruitment forum. you'll find tons of PVP corps looking to recruit noobs and teach you the ropes. gl.

edit: also, great name. currently one of my favs

Moved from General Discussion; It's a bit friendlier here!

The problem with most MMO groups is that enthusiasm dies out sooner or later, with members getting busy in real life, moving to new game releases, etc etc. That's where they see the value of new guys coming into their ranks.. There are alot of 'guilds' or Corporations in EvE that are on the lookout for new enthusiastic players such as yourself. The good ones will have a ship replacement program so that will at least take off some load off your worries.

As mentioned in the earlier posts, you should look at the ingame corp recruitment page, arrange talks, visit their websites/forums and choose what is most convenient with you.

Good luck!~

edit: Well community-wise.. we have our fair share of graduates from the University of 4chan, so..