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What happens when an alliance "wins EVE"?

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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#41 - 2012-11-02 02:27:48 UTC
They get to watch the special victory video then watch the credits scroll down the screen. Then they are able to enter their initials if they got a high score.

Then hard mode unlocks, and they can play through the game again with it 3x harder.

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Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#42 - 2012-11-02 02:29:37 UTC
rodyas wrote:
They get to watch the special victory video then watch the credits scroll down the screen. Then they are able to enter their initials if they got a high score.

Then hard mode unlocks, and they can play through the game again with it 3x harder.



Everyone knows that you need to enter your initials as "ASS"

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Ritsum
Perkone
Caldari State
#43 - 2012-11-02 02:36:44 UTC
Lugia3 wrote:
So, eventually if EVE was left alone long enough one alliance would someday take all of nullsec, in theory anyway. What would CCP do in the event that an alliance takes all of null and stabilizes as one massive blob of blues?


Would never happen... Too many people have different views of the game so no one would get along enough to get to that point, some would go elsewhere and others would form resistance alliance's to keep it from happening.

Play EvE how you want to play it and do not let others dictate how you play. Evolve your playstyle to protect yourself from others! Even in "PVE", "PVP" is there, lurking in the shadows.

Natasha Liao
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2012-11-02 03:34:06 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Quote:
What happens when an alliance "wins EVE"?
They get cake.
And Ponies.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#45 - 2012-11-02 06:36:17 UTC
Den Arius wrote:
If there was a lack of PVP, I am sure CCP would do something to stimulate PVP. This "win eve" situation would be a failure of the in game mechanics (null sec was designed for permanent conflict ). When nobody was using FW, CCP didn't just ignore that - they stimulated the stats and mechanics to encourage people to get involved. The exact same thing would happen in the scenario that the OP is describing.

Well in Highsec online, that doesn't seem to be a problem....

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Kult Altol
The Safe Space
#46 - 2012-11-02 06:42:01 UTC
You win eve when you quit and biomass your toons.

and you get a bonus consolation prize of winning at life,

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Turelus
Utassi Security
#47 - 2012-11-02 07:26:23 UTC
Even if one Alliance took all of NullSec eventually some drama would happen in that Alliance and it would fragment and break apart.

Also everyone hates the guy on top, there will be others who band together to stop them.

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Yolanta Geezenstack
GWA Corp
#48 - 2012-11-02 08:08:46 UTC
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Kaylyis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2012-11-02 08:12:12 UTC
If nullsec became a bluefest then the current batch of loonies who took over would be ill-equipped to control that kind of vast territory easily. I believe the Goons and Test exploited the fact that BoB spread out too thin if I recall the history correctly.

All it would take to turn it into lawless space at that point would be a nerf to reinforce timers and a buncha maniacs with dreads and battleships to go play kick the can on POSes and Sov control units. taking territory would be optional, but unnecessary in the face of the sheer joy of burning everything down.

there are always people willing to burn your **** down. Because it's yours.

This would be one of the main reasons for ganking in highsec. The gankers by and large don't care if they profit. They care about properly burning your house down.

(this blanket statement does not apply to goons interdicting ice and murdering every capital freighter they can find with Pilots too stupid to realize that autopilot is not your friend, nor does it apply to gankers who use ship scanners and cargo scanners to ferret the juiciest loot out.)

Officer fit machariels are just as delicious to the enterprising ganker as a freighter fulla technetium bought straight off the Jita market.

If the goons, or TEST, or one of those particular variety of coalition rose to the top and kicked everyone out I could see them all burning down everything and forcing everyone to start again from zero. Mostly to **** everyone off, partly because the level of violence caused by people jockeying for space would be epic, and would continuously feed their desire for good fights, and lopsided, horrific slaughters.
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#50 - 2012-11-02 08:14:39 UTC
One does not simply win eve, but he can get engouth power and influence to affect live of all other players. Straight

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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#51 - 2012-11-02 08:34:36 UTC
Lugia3 wrote:
So, eventually if EVE was left alone long enough one alliance would someday take all of nullsec, in theory anyway. What would CCP do in the event that an alliance takes all of null and stabilizes as one massive blob of blues?


they fade and die in a fire

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Andemnon Kohort
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2012-11-02 08:49:26 UTC
The only way this could happen is if everyone joined the same alliance... last time i checked people would rather shoot each other than do that... its more fun for one thing.. so.. never going to happen Cool
Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#53 - 2012-11-02 09:57:06 UTC
An alliance cant 'win eve'. i'll tell you why.

The only type of alliance that could ever have a shot at 'winning eve' would be a PVP alliance.

What do PVP'ers want? Targets.

Once they've won, what will they have for targets? Nothing.

The alliance that 'won' would then crumble quickly and turn on itself in a desperate attempt to find killmails in a stagnent universe.

Luckily, it'll never come to that because people will notice the lack of targets long before an alliance gets that big.

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP

CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#54 - 2012-11-02 10:07:46 UTC
I removed some off-topic posting from the thread. This is not the place to discuss the state of another player's account.

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Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#55 - 2012-11-02 12:29:43 UTC
Natasha Liao wrote:
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Quote:
What happens when an alliance "wins EVE"?
They get cake.
And Ponies.



Shocked


Crap who stole my pony???
And who the heck stole my cake????

*Republic Fleet EMP loading...*


brb

Opertone
State War Academy
Caldari State
#56 - 2012-11-02 13:10:44 UTC
no...

they would simply be bored. Eve is actually a game, a toy. When toy is of no interest, they leave it.

If it is an alliance built by force - there will always be discontent and disagreement.

If it is an alliance built by friendship and peace, there will always be evil monsters who can easily attack it.

This post sums up why the 'best' work with DCM inc.

WARP DRIVE makes eve boring

really - add warping align time 300% on gun aggression and eve becomes great again

Kagasumi
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2012-11-02 14:51:06 UTC
Lugia3 wrote:
So, eventually if EVE was left alone long enough one alliance would someday take all of nullsec, in theory anyway. What would CCP do in the event that an alliance takes all of null and stabilizes as one massive blob of blues?


You are assuming an alliance could get that big and remain that big without some sort of inner turmoil or conflict that would break them apart.

Whether it be spies, sabotage, disagreements, jockeying for power, inner politics, greed....something will happen to corporations that get that big. It's just a percentage chance. The more thousands of people you add, the more likely something will break.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#58 - 2012-11-02 15:41:07 UTC
It would merely provide an opportunity to infiltrate and orchestrate a corp/alliance theft of truly epic proportions.

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Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2012-11-02 16:15:15 UTC
Lugia3 wrote:
Den Arius wrote:
In the current political climate, we'd never see a single alliance take control over the the entire map, however I believe it is fully possible that a CFC+HBC mega-coalition to achieve such a feat. It wouldn't last for long though, alliances would break away from the coalition in attempt to claim power from their own and we'd back at square one.


That would be much more likely to happen. However, lets say that this mega-alliance stabilizes and doesn't fall apart. Would CCP ever intervene? Hypothetical scenario.


Only in 1 situation would they "intervene" and not in a way you might think.

When null gets bored, they head off to other space to mess with those not interested in SOV games -- when they start trashing how others play this game outside of SOV lands, CCP starts looking at "adjustments" to prevent this.

I seriously doubt they'd step in to "fix it" in nullsec.

iirc - on the China server, the largest trade hub in the game is in nullsec. They have treaties in place to enable trade-hub activities to function there and they arrange "major battles" among the various groups holding space there.

It's old-style war with some formalities and such that their community agrees to and enforces.

As such, if SOV lands setup rules and such for their control, CCP probably wouldn't do anything.
Holly Kleric
Master Miners
#60 - 2012-11-02 16:28:39 UTC
It will never happen.
BOB and Goons prove that any alliance will hit critical mass and then implode.

Spies, Griefers, Bored capsuleers. All will win in the end.


It's a game and if anyone gets that big someone will take em down and shake things up.

This is why i love eve.