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Null sec trade hubs? Do they even exsist?
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Tiberius StarGazer
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-11-02 00:13:16 UTC
I was watching Sir Livingstones latest installment of his null sec tour and he mentions a station in nullsec which is classed as a null sec trade hub and that people should ship there and make bundles of profit...

At first this revelation was music to my ears, I do a lot of low sec running as it is for my current corp and trade activities... but then I started thinking more and more about it about how can a trade hub even exsist in null sec?

And while this one is on the over side of the galaxy to where I normally operate it got me wondering, are there any other trade hubs? and even if there was, how profitable can such a place be when, with no doubt there is probably little to no trade possible.

I would like to be proven wrong, and I have no qualms about running a bit of risk to make the extra ISK, but somehow I can't help but feel that nullsec trading is like walking into the worst part of town with your rolex watch on and your wallet stuffed with money sticking out of your back pocket while waving a 50 at the teller of the local macdonalds when there is probably little reason for you to be buying a meal from there in the first place.
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#2 - 2012-11-02 00:14:15 UTC
Sort of.... You won't find everything... oh and we're talking NPC Null

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Silk daShocka
Greasy Hair Club
#3 - 2012-11-02 00:14:47 UTC
VFK

There are others as well.
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#4 - 2012-11-02 00:14:49 UTC
There are lots. At least one is bigger than most hisec hubs. And you don't think we all fly to Jita every time we need a ship do you? Tons of ISK to be made.
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-11-02 00:16:22 UTC
Alliances that are co-ordinated and wealthy enough can build an Outpost

That then atleast enables trading to occur between those with docking rights

Check DOTLAN for OP construction values, should give you a rough idea of the base level trade available.
Silk daShocka
Greasy Hair Club
#6 - 2012-11-02 00:16:34 UTC
KrakizBad wrote:
There are lots. At least one is bigger than most hisec hubs. And you don't think we all fly to Jita every time we need a ship do you? Tons of ISK to be made.


The biggest one is the smaller than hek, so no none are bigger than most hisec hubs, unless you mean the hi sec hubs that no one uses.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#7 - 2012-11-02 00:16:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Akirei Scytale
K6 is so well stocked I am frequently shocked when I find modules no one really uses on the market. Many prices beat Jita as well.

Oh, and when TEST is not deployed, K6 tends to have a larger population (and better prices) than Dodixie.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-11-02 00:16:58 UTC
VFK is a very well stocked trade hub, about the only thing you can't get locally is Marauders, and we generally don't use those anyways.

Generally whatever location we are staging out of becomes a temporary trade hub as well. I know I was able to completely fit out several hulls from the local market.

But will you be able to access this hub in any meaningful form? No.
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#9 - 2012-11-02 00:18:01 UTC
Silk daShocka wrote:
KrakizBad wrote:
There are lots. At least one is bigger than most hisec hubs. And you don't think we all fly to Jita every time we need a ship do you? Tons of ISK to be made.


The biggest one is the smaller than hek, so no none are bigger than most hisec hubs, unless you mean the hi sec hubs that no one uses.

That is precisely what I meant. They seem to call 'hubs' systems with less in them than VFK, idk, crazy hiseccers.
Beckie DeLey
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-11-02 00:20:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Beckie DeLey
Tiberius StarGazer wrote:
I was watching Sir Livingstones latest installment of his null sec tour and he mentions a station in nullsec which is classed as a null sec trade hub and that people should ship there and make bundles of profit...

At first this revelation was music to my ears, I do a lot of low sec running as it is for my current corp and trade activities... but then I started thinking more and more about it about how can a trade hub even exsist in null sec?

And while this one is on the over side of the galaxy to where I normally operate it got me wondering, are there any other trade hubs? and even if there was, how profitable can such a place be when, with no doubt there is probably little to no trade possible.

I would like to be proven wrong, and I have no qualms about running a bit of risk to make the extra ISK, but somehow I can't help but feel that nullsec trading is like walking into the worst part of town with your rolex watch on and your wallet stuffed with money sticking out of your back pocket while waving a 50 at the teller of the local macdonalds when there is probably little reason for you to be buying a meal from there in the first place.



Your general perception of nullsec seems to be wrong. It's really not much of a wild west out there, no matter what people like to tell you. Plenty of Iterons making their tours, for example. Well, those of the locals, at least.

Basically, trade happens between allies and if you are on the 'inside', your job is actually pretty safe.

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Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#11 - 2012-11-02 00:26:36 UTC
All Null sec 'hubs' are regulated by Jita.
If a module sells for 600K in Jita it sells for slightly higher in the outpost hub.

The reason being simple. Even with NBSI and public access locked out they know their own members will harvest the markets for profit in Jita.

Null alliances are dog eat dog with no sense of duty or a mechanic to prevent contamination by meta gaming.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#12 - 2012-11-02 00:41:34 UTC
Skydell wrote:
All Null sec 'hubs' are regulated by Jita.
If a module sells for 600K in Jita it sells for slightly higher in the outpost hub.

The reason being simple. Even with NBSI and public access locked out they know their own members will harvest the markets for profit in Jita.

Null alliances are dog eat dog with no sense of duty or a mechanic to prevent contamination by meta gaming.


Tell that to TEST, you lose ISK on most modules when importing. Many TEST prices are below Jita. The reason for this is because TEST has been well stocked for ages, and there are huge stockpiles of goods competing with each other on their own market. Also, Nullsec PI results in PI goods going for nearly 25-30% below Jita prices. The reason you don't see tons of people abusing this and just shipping everything to highsec is because A) not everyone has a JF and B) hiring a JF cuts into profit margins.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#13 - 2012-11-02 01:00:17 UTC
The G-0/HLW area in Curse is generally pretty well stocked.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-11-02 01:30:30 UTC
Skydell wrote:
All Null sec 'hubs' are regulated by Jita.
If a module sells for 600K in Jita it sells for slightly higher in the outpost hub.

The reason being simple. Even with NBSI and public access locked out they know their own members will harvest the markets for profit in Jita.

Null alliances are dog eat dog with no sense of duty or a mechanic to prevent contamination by meta gaming.


you're really showing your market acumen here, thanks for pointing out that moving things via jump freighter is free

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Cherry Delight
Valkyre Black
#15 - 2012-11-02 01:43:18 UTC
>>HED-GP
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-11-02 01:47:59 UTC
Andski wrote:
Skydell wrote:
All Null sec 'hubs' are regulated by Jita.
If a module sells for 600K in Jita it sells for slightly higher in the outpost hub.

The reason being simple. Even with NBSI and public access locked out they know their own members will harvest the markets for profit in Jita.

Null alliances are dog eat dog with no sense of duty or a mechanic to prevent contamination by meta gaming.


you're really showing your market acumen here, thanks for pointing out that moving things via jump freighter is free

son of *****, I've been paying to ship full freighters every couple days.

**** goon scams.
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#17 - 2012-11-02 01:48:17 UTC
Andski wrote:
Skydell wrote:
All Null sec 'hubs' are regulated by Jita.
If a module sells for 600K in Jita it sells for slightly higher in the outpost hub.

The reason being simple. Even with NBSI and public access locked out they know their own members will harvest the markets for profit in Jita.

Null alliances are dog eat dog with no sense of duty or a mechanic to prevent contamination by meta gaming.


you're really showing your market acumen here, thanks for pointing out that moving things via jump freighter is free


Twist it some more.

Twist it how ever you want.

Now do us all a favor and go choke on your own vomit
usrevenge
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-11-02 02:13:18 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
K6 is so well stocked I am frequently shocked when I find modules no one really uses on the market. Many prices beat Jita as well.

Oh, and when TEST is not deployed, K6 tends to have a larger population (and better prices) than Dodixie.


this, when I joined test I was surprised at how simple it was to fit a ship... though, there were no noctis for salvaging for a while.. but a few days later there were like 5.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-11-02 02:56:51 UTC
Skydell wrote:
Twist it some more.

Twist it how ever you want.

Now do us all a favor and go choke on your own vomit


Twisting the knife is always fun, yes.

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"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#20 - 2012-11-02 03:09:02 UTC
Skydell wrote:
All Null sec 'hubs' are regulated by Jita.
If a module sells for 600K in Jita it sells for slightly higher in the outpost hub.

The reason being simple. Even with NBSI and public access locked out they know their own members will harvest the markets for profit in Jita.

Null alliances are dog eat dog with no sense of duty or a mechanic to prevent contamination by meta gaming.


Neutrals and hostiles can easily buy from a market remotely and sell without needing to dock.
That pretty much voids your statement on everything else in this entire thread.
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