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make server uptime 30h not ~23.5

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Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#41 - 2012-11-01 12:59:04 UTC
I could understand this a year or two ago, with hour-long downtimes. Nowadays? Really? It's 10 minutes or less most days. Go grab a beer or something. I play around downtime quite often too, and it has never been bothering me.
Area51
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2012-11-01 13:12:29 UTC
I think its convenient for us in East Asia too! Downtime is 7pm for me, so it gives me time to eat dinner from getting home from work, server's up usually at 7:30 and it gives me a few hours to play before sleeping!
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Alec Freeman
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2012-11-01 13:56:50 UTC
Confirming not being able to log on and change my skill que when I wake up at 10AM is a pain
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2012-11-01 14:00:08 UTC
Bobo Cindekela wrote:

Signed
-The Majority

It has been made quite clear in this thread that you do not speak for any majority. Pretty arrogant of you to imply that you do. The daily server resets are something that needs to be done and changing that will not happen, nor should it. Not to mention making it an odd number like 30 would completely screw with things like Sov Warfare.

No thank you...have a nice day.

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flakeys
Doomheim
#45 - 2012-11-01 14:01:11 UTC
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:


How on earth do the EUTZ benefit from a downtime at 11am? I am currently sitting at work wondering how all these things respawning etc in an hour benefits me in any way.

In fact the best way to benefit the EUTZ would be to have the downtime at about 17:30 EVE time, that way it can all be up and ready just as we come home from work and have eaten a meal.

0/10 for OP



European with a rare free day here and i would LOVE such a change indeed . Delay downtime to 1800 eve time please CCP so i can enjoy fresh spawns after work.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2012-11-01 14:04:40 UTC
Tubrug1 wrote:
Moving yourself to Europe would be more pratical than what you suggested.


The way things are going politically, I may be able to claim asylum from religious persecution in England before long. You guys leave a light on for me, would you?

Also, @ the OP: No. I wish my company could turn our systems off at 11:am instead of 2:30 in the morning so I would never again have to log in in the middle of a deep sleep just to patch an application.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.

ISD BiscuitThief
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#47 - 2012-11-01 14:23:16 UTC
Downtime is a lot less than it used to be when I started, though 10 minutes is still too much time for me to not be shooting rocks and stuff.

Fortunately, this is something CCP is already working on, there was a blog post about it couple years back. Problem is, things take time, and I imagine CCP to be an elite athlete - the first 90% is easier to accomplish than the last 10%.

I'd give them a little more time, I'm sure we'll all be basking in zero downtime goodness soon™, which I'd say is a better scenario than a rolling downtime.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#48 - 2012-11-01 14:29:17 UTC
Bobo Cindekela wrote:
as it stands now, euros get a big benefit to the server uptime cycle, sites respawn, sov upgrades respawn, ded complexes and grav sites respawn, and all convieniently at ~10AM




.....exactly when most Euro's are at work or at school.

If you want to uselessly complain about this issue, you should focus on the Austrailians. They are right in the middle of their prime time evening when DT occurs. Primed and waiting.

But, I'm not complaining.

But, no matter when DT occurs someone will be affected, even if it is rotated around.

The complaints would still happen. Nothing would be solved still.

Useless pointless thread is useless pointless thread.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#49 - 2012-11-01 14:33:26 UTC
ISD BiscuitThief wrote:

I'd give them a little more time, I'm sure we'll all be basking in zero downtime goodness soon™, which I'd say is a better scenario than a rolling downtime.



Yup. I remember reading about the zero DT as well.

With the current system, I don't see how that is possible without a 2nd server. Which of course brings up the idea of ......

SHARDS !

I didn't really say that did I ?

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Mirajane Cromwell
#50 - 2012-11-01 14:35:05 UTC
The last time I checked how long DT is, it was 7 minutes... So I think they're right on track at getting rid of DT completely.
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#51 - 2012-11-01 14:38:04 UTC
Alice Saki wrote:
Fucks Given?

Signed
Euro


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Kenneth O'Hara
Sebiestor Tribe
#52 - 2012-11-01 17:48:20 UTC
man, this is getting as bad as the QQers on WoW. Go on. go find something else to QQ about.

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Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#53 - 2012-11-01 18:47:20 UTC
baltec1 wrote:


Well what do you care, you are sleeping when its DT or getting ready for work.

That's his point though.

CCP should change the way that exploration sites work. Either make them more persistant so they aren't being consumed within a few hours of the server coming up, or have new sites spawn later in the day.

I don't think that CCP needs to change when they do downtime. I'm sure, like most MMO's the downtime is based on when it effects the least number of people, and doesn't require CCP to work odd hours just to run the game.

I don't think that people who aren't able to log into the game until 8 hours after downtime should be restricted from content because they live in a TZ that that either has them sleeping or working. If you're not playing right after downtime it can be an incredible chore to actually find exploration sites because they're consumed so quickly. I'm sure people are able to find some though, just not nearly as many as there are within the first hour that the server comes back up.



I would think that exploration sites that had enough content in them to last a good portion of the day would actualy create more conflict between high sec players. Make them last longer and make them function like low or null sec so people can shoot each other to clear the sites for themselves.
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
#54 - 2012-11-01 18:51:10 UTC
I am down for a longer uptime. How about 47 of 48 hours?
Doc Severide
Doomheim
#55 - 2012-11-01 19:22:34 UTC
I left a tooth under my pillow for the tooth fairy to leave me a quarter. I expect to see the OP anytime...
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#56 - 2012-11-01 20:54:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Beekeeper Bob
I too wish to demand 24/hr a day service....Oops


OP: Your asking the Devs to go on a 30 hour day, for your convenience... If you're willing to do the same, the Dev's don't have too, problem solved....

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Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#57 - 2012-11-01 21:12:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Natsett Amuinn
It seems everyone is disregarding what the OP is really complaining about.

It's not really the downtime. It's that consumable content is consumed shortly after downtime because that's when it's refreshed, and a lot of people aren't able to participate in that content because it's gone when they're able to play.

His 30 hour idea, while not good, was just his idea of how to allow a fairer chance for people who are either asleep or working for those hours shortly after downtime to be able allowed a chance to also participate in that content.

No downtime wouldn't fix the issue because one would assume that that content would just refresh at around the same time every day, regardless of whether or not the server has to be restarted or not.


Does every asteroid belt have to respawn with downtime? Do all exploration sites have to respawn during downtime?
Would it be possible to one day see belts that don't spawn after downtime but instead respawn like 8 hours after; same with explorations sites and other consumable content?

Guys living in the US west coast TZ are at huge disadvantage as compared to say someone in the Aussie TZ, or me on the US east coast and is retired.

Imagine if something like lvl 4 missions were only doable by a single person; once done it's not available to another person until after the next downtime. The only people with access to lvl 4 missions would be those of us not sleeping or working when the server comes up.



Seems like one of the most reasonable things to complain about if you ask me. It's better than 99% of the other stuff people ***** abut around here.
Generals4
#58 - 2012-11-01 21:51:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Generals4
Bobo Cindekela wrote:
as it stands now, euros get a big benefit to the server uptime cycle, sites respawn, sov upgrades respawn, ded complexes and grav sites respawn, and all convieniently at ~10AM

EVERY DAY

meanwhile, around the entire rest of the planet, north and south america is falling asleep from an allnighter, oceanic and east asian TZ are hitting midnight, and rest of russia is heading into late evening

EVERY DAY

I get that your an icelandic company, and you been doing it this way for 9 years

but you should consider that you are screwing over 75% of the earth (and probalby an even larger percentage of your playerbase) just cos thats when is convienient to you.

I suggest considering 30 hour server uptime, so the pain, and the joy, of logging in at your prime time and having all the fresh sites to yourself, can be felt by the rest of us

Signed
-The Majority


I was under the impression that anoms (at least explo anoms) respawned in "random" systems right after being completed ?
I would also note that except during the week end and for college students 10 AM (or 1PM in my case) is all but convenient.

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Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#59 - 2012-11-01 22:23:21 UTC
Alice Saki wrote:
Fucks Given?

Signed
Euro

None,

Signed
NA (without a sense of entitlement).

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.

Elvis Fett
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#60 - 2012-11-01 23:03:26 UTC
Gibbo5771 wrote:
Actually all sites and anomalies are spawned every 1, 3, 6 or 12 hours. Randomizes.

So go away.


Wow logic and reason didn't even make the first page.