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Cultural elitism and the war against Pubdom - is this is the future of EVE?

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#41 - 2012-10-31 12:17:15 UTC
Den Arius wrote:
Nex apparatu5 wrote:
The OP gives a whole new meaning to the words "entitled hisec pubbie"


I spend most of my time in Null Sec. I only go to high sec to deal with corporate activities - I live in Northern Nullsec. I am regularly attacked in local.

Good for you. o7

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Den Arius
Monte Inc
#42 - 2012-10-31 12:17:51 UTC
I've been personally attacked for being a pubbie 4 times since posting this thread. This is an example of why cultural elitism is a bad thing for me, for you and for the growing new-player base in EVE.

Bobb
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#43 - 2012-10-31 12:18:14 UTC
Den Arius wrote:
Rordan D'Kherr wrote:
So you complain about the existence of other forums that deal with eve. Ok.


I'm complaining about the following:

- People who aren't a member of these "external" forums have significantly less opportunities in null sec
- The generalization of a very diverse group of people
- The cultural elitism
- Active and long-standing members of these communities are being rejected because of strict posting requirements


Well, I think we should petition CCP to fund a well equipped paramilitary force to violently shut down any and all community servers/providers which are hosting forums and/or knowledge bases not in conjunction with our own alignment/opponions.

Who's with me?

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.
Remnant Madeveda
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2012-10-31 12:19:14 UTC
ITT someone realizes that local is **** in game, much like the OP here. Congratulations Preencleeve, and thanks for the :tenbux: again. I'm sure the overlords appreciate it.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#45 - 2012-10-31 12:19:48 UTC
Debora Tsung wrote:
Den Arius wrote:
Rordan D'Kherr wrote:
So you complain about the existence of other forums that deal with eve. Ok.


I'm complaining about the following:

- People who aren't a member of these "external" forums have significantly less opportunities in null sec
- The generalization of a very diverse group of people
- The cultural elitism
- Active and long-standing members of these communities are being rejected because of strict posting requirements


Well, I think we should petition CCP to fund a well equipped paramilitary force to violently shut down any and all community servers/providers which are hosting forums and/or knowledge bases not in conjunction with our own alignment/opponions.

Who's with me?

Let's do this thing.

Also, get them to remove the person who started the thread. It's very much against my alignment and opinions. And a bad poster.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Robert De'Arneth
#46 - 2012-10-31 12:20:09 UTC
I fail to see an issue, Corps have right to deny entry to anyone.

I'm a nerd, you can check my stats!! Skilling Int/Mem at 45 sp per minute is how I mack!     I'm like a lapdog, all bark no bite. 
Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2012-10-31 12:20:26 UTC
Den Arius wrote:
A few months ago, The Mittani was launching a cultural purge of what he defined as ~bad posting~ within his space empire. We are seeing very dark and grim social relations develop here in New Eden - a different kind of elitism.


I designed a poster for said cultural revolution. I won 500mil isk because people liked it. I'm not even a member of Goonswarm Fed let alone Goonwaffe.

Just food for thought.

p.s. obligatory "Oh hi Prencleeve!"

Aren't you evading ban? I think you are.
Den Arius
Monte Inc
#48 - 2012-10-31 12:20:46 UTC
Remnant Madeveda wrote:
ITT someone realizes that local is **** in game, much like the OP here. Congratulations Preencleeve, and thanks for the :tenbux: again. I'm sure the overlords appreciate it.


Something Awful admins have even started permanently probating people because of not posting in their "style". They won't even accept the $10 to unban the account, they're permanently denying people the opportunity to post or ever become part of the community. This is directly related to EVE - this elitism is a two way thing.

Bobb
Ghazu
#49 - 2012-10-31 12:22:42 UTC
Hi Prencleeve or Prencleeve's dad, how are you doing?
What happened to the Assyrian Coalition?
http://i.imgur.com/KaafI.jpg well black mark fell, GJ!

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984
Den Arius
Monte Inc
#50 - 2012-10-31 12:25:39 UTC
I think its wise to take a look at the Russian situation down in the south. The russians joined as a community and then played with the mechanics without causing grief or distress to other people who weren't part of their russian community. When spending time in the south, I'm rarely attacked for not being Russian or Solar Fleet.

Bobb
Wibla
Tactical Narcotics Team
#51 - 2012-10-31 12:27:39 UTC
You stalked The Mittani, you shitposted on SA, and now you feel 'persecuted'?

This gets better and better

Get out.
Den Arius
Monte Inc
#52 - 2012-10-31 12:30:05 UTC
Wibla wrote:
You stalked The Mittani, you shitposted on SA, and now you feel 'persecuted'?

This gets better and better

Get out.


This is exactly what I mean. Cultural elitism is being used to stir up irrelevant points because of some "posting" superiority. It is crazy.

Bobb
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2012-10-31 12:30:27 UTC
Ghazu wrote:
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
You are complaining about the two biggest ******* alliances being assholes. Why would you even want to join them anyway? They can do whatever they want with their recruiting. If they are using stupid rules and methods for their recruiting then that just goes to show how just how stupid they are.

Stupid is as stupid does.

Now with that understood are you proud to be affiliated with them through those forums?

Ok renter with funny names.

Ok Goon pet.

You need to learn what a "renter" is. Hint: It's somebody that pays rent.

At least I am not afraid to reveal my alliance and corp, unlike some people. That and my name doesn't sound like the sound made when someone sneezes...

Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821
Plexas Aideron
Enlightened Industries
Goonswarm Federation
#54 - 2012-10-31 12:30:51 UTC
i thought being irrelevant was the whole point of this thread?
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#55 - 2012-10-31 12:32:18 UTC
Wow, you actually stalked someone?

Oh god.
Silk daShocka
Greasy Hair Club
#56 - 2012-10-31 12:33:42 UTC
Den Arius wrote:
I've been personally attacked for being a pubbie 4 times since posting this thread. This is an example of why cultural elitism is a bad thing for me, for you and for the growing new-player base in EVE.


The term "pubbie" has been used extensively in many video game communities prior to it being adopted in Eve by certain elitists.

If anything it will make a player that has played MOBAs or FPSs feel right at home if they are a new player to eve.

It's kind of cute that the term is used in Eve, considering it originates from games where a player can play primarily in PUGs (thus being a pubbie, public match player). I dont' think there is really much PUGs going on in Eve, except for maybe Lolcursions.
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#57 - 2012-10-31 12:34:12 UTC
Den Arius wrote:
I think its wise to take a look at the Russian situation down in the south. The russians joined as a community and then played with the mechanics without causing grief or distress to other people who weren't part of their russian community. When spending time in the south, I'm rarely attacked for not being Russian or Solar Fleet.


I can, with pride, say that the only russian in our little corp did not leave because we forced him to, but of his own accord and without further encouragement from us. Despite the fact that he at times got drunk and randomly insulted people on Teamspeak during alliance ops.

I therefore would like to promote The Investment Bankers Guild to the most open minded and tolerant coorporation of new eden.

The thing with the petition about the well armed paramilitary force to shut down other forums is still active, please add further ideas to get rid of strange people with different oppinions, in this thread, I want that petition to be as solid and waterprof as possible.

Thanks for your effort in advance

etc. etc.

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.
Wibla
Tactical Narcotics Team
#58 - 2012-10-31 12:40:07 UTC
Den Arius wrote:
Wibla wrote:
You stalked The Mittani, you shitposted on SA, and now you feel 'persecuted'?

This gets better and better

Get out.


This is exactly what I mean. Cultural elitism is being used to stir up irrelevant points because of some "posting" superiority. It is crazy.


So it's cultural elitism when we expect that people don't behave like complete shitheels?

Welcome to the realities of being on a moderated forum, are you enjoying your 100k hour probation?
Vellamo Lyr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#59 - 2012-10-31 12:42:25 UTC
lol
Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#60 - 2012-10-31 12:42:50 UTC
Den Arius wrote:

This is exactly what I mean. Cultural elitism is being used to stir up irrelevant points because of some "posting" superiority. It is crazy.



No, you're just madder then a bag full of cats, and you don't get that you really need to spend more time meeting real people and socialising rather then going onto internet forums or spaceship games, getting trolled due to previous situation vis a vis bag of cats and then going nuts when you take it personally.

This is like, what, the 3rd time I've seen you start publicly posting stuff which is just going to attract that sort of attention?

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli