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Miners Unite to Fight the New Order!

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Max Doobie
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#241 - 2012-10-29 15:16:32 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
This thread is evidence of WHY many people don't like high sec miners. No simply bumping a miner is somehow the end of the world, because orbiting stuff is hard.



The only people who don't like high-sec miners are the people are described earlier in this post. People who feel the need to coerce others into doing things their way. YOU would prefer me play a certain way so you grief me. It's lame and stupid and I'm salivating at CCPs obvious actions towards this in a patch.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#242 - 2012-10-29 15:17:21 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
This thread is evidence of WHY many people don't like high sec miners. No simply bumping a miner is somehow the end of the world, because orbiting stuff is hard.


All of this just goes to show that a great number of miners are indeed the most useless people in EVE.
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#243 - 2012-10-29 15:18:32 UTC
Max Doobie wrote:
Just an idea, maybe the miners can come together and drive the ore prices up until either the community turns on them, the bumpers stop or Alliances wipe them out (bumpers).

Good luck with that one. I think a more likely scenario is that miners keep mining and whining, and bumpers keep bumping.

Also, they're bumping ice miners.

CCP has no sense of humour.
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#244 - 2012-10-29 15:20:14 UTC
Max Doobie wrote:
The only people who don't like high-sec miners are the people are described earlier in this post. People who feel the need to coerce others into doing things their way. YOU would prefer me play a certain way so you grief me. It's lame and stupid and I'm salivating at CCPs obvious actions towards this in a patch.

Actually, most people here don't like miners because miners are literally the most terrible players in the game. Hell, miners don't even play the game.

CCP has no sense of humour.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#245 - 2012-10-29 15:26:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Max Doobie wrote:
Just an idea, maybe the miners can come together and drive the ore prices up until either the community turns on them, the bumpers stop or Alliances wipe them out (bumpers).

Seems like a nice CCP free way to "Sandbox-A-Solution" in my book. Would be completely fair and legit.


Not going to happen, miners on the whole couldn't organise a drinking party in a brewery, expecting them to set up a cartel is laughable.

Besides, there is an overabundance of minerals available, the supply far exceeds the demand, if the miners could actually organise something other than mass crying then they would have the power to drive competition and prices by controlling the supply, mineral values going up would be welcomed by many.

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Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#246 - 2012-10-29 15:31:13 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Not going to happen, miners on the whole couldn't organise a drinking party in a brewery, expecting them to set up a cartel is laughable.

Also, believing that miners are going to enforce such a cartel. Hilarious.

CCP has no sense of humour.
Sidrat Flush
School of Applied Knowledge
#247 - 2012-10-29 15:38:10 UTC
Some Rando wrote:
Max Doobie wrote:
The only people who don't like high-sec miners are the people are described earlier in this post. People who feel the need to coerce others into doing things their way. YOU would prefer me play a certain way so you grief me. It's lame and stupid and I'm salivating at CCPs obvious actions towards this in a patch.

Actually, most people here don't like miners because miners are literally the most terrible players in the game. Hell, miners don't even play the game.


To be the best miner you must accurately mimick a bot.

This is why mining mechanics must change.

This is why bumpers has introduced a meta-game in to the mining mechanics. It's nit difficult to avoid them and even appreciate a good bump when you see one. I have seen many bumps some better than others. The best ones are the big ones where the pilot doesn't even notice for twenty minutes or more.

Why does playing eve have to resort to watching tv or doing something else? That's not playing Eve. Update the mechanics to reduce the ability of being afk.

Keep up the good work miners and bumpers alike. May the roids you acquire go up in value due to the hassle and perhaps null sec will start producing in their own empire instead of Empire. Perhaps then miners and industrialists will become valued as null dwellers, as long as you can of course defend yourself and PvP in times of crisis.

Its time to stand up against the bad empire based CEO telling falsehoods about what new characters can accomplish and pushing them towards an in game experience of drudgery and loneliness keeping them in the shadow of ignorance for at nest their own profit at worse apathy towards all the experiences that Eve has to offer.
Robert De'Arneth
#248 - 2012-10-29 15:44:58 UTC
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
Well you are more then welcome to come and try and make me pay, I assure you, I will laugh at you. You see, you have no way to make me pay. This is a fact, you may think you show up and people shiver, but you would be wrong. Big smile I would be very polite and tell you to go f yourself. You act like you know everyone in the game and how they will react, that is your mistake, thinking you know everyone.

Where do you live?

Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
I'm waiting for mercs to take their money and then show up in the belts to bump them for being whiney little kids Twisted

I, too, am waiting to see this happen.



And knowing where I *live* is going to make me pay you? How are you going to make me pay you is my next question? I can move around, I could hop in another ship. My point is sir, you cannot ever make me pay you 1 isk. You think because the op is crying that every miner is going to cry. Your mining bump means squat to me. I can do other things, I could even move to a new system and keep making you follow me. But one thing you will never do is make me pay isk for getting bumped. LOL. I have 2 kids, I know how to deal with children. Your issue is this, you think these forums paint a picture of everyone who plays this game. So if you want to come extort from me, do your own looking. Just know you will waste quite a bit of time. I am also one of those AFK cloakers everyone cries about. Big smile I will leave the game on all day while cloaked. Shocked

You are quite funny.

I'm a nerd, you can check my stats!! Skilling Int/Mem at 45 sp per minute is how I mack!     I'm like a lapdog, all bark no bite. 
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#249 - 2012-10-29 15:45:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Asuri Kinnes
Jenn aSide wrote:
This thread is evidence of WHY many people don't like high sec miners. No simply bumping a miner is somehow the end of the world, because orbiting stuff is hard.

Actually, this thread is probably the result of James or one of his sycophants efforts (not bumping, typing it).

It's my guess that all these :words: by james and co. is just an elaborate set up to drum up attention to this alt (J315) of someone else for the next CSM election.

Hi-Sec miners being the unfortunate paper this message is being written on.
baltec1 wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
This thread is evidence of WHY many people don't like high sec miners. No simply bumping a miner is somehow the end of the world, because orbiting stuff is hard.


All of this just goes to show that a great number of miners are indeed the most useless people in EVE.

Because all the hundreds (thousands?) of miners in game are represented by the 1/2 dozen who post in GD (the most radical anti-bumpers probably being James or his sycophants)? Yeah...

Roll

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#250 - 2012-10-29 15:47:57 UTC
Actually I believe that James posts and plays on his main, look into his corp history for evidence of this.

I f he stood for the CSM it would certainly be interesting to see peoples reactions

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#251 - 2012-10-29 15:48:09 UTC
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
I am also one of those AFK cloakers everyone cries about


You AFK cloak in high-sec? As a member of a high-sec mining corp?

Oh god.
Dragon Outlaw
Rogue Fleet
#252 - 2012-10-29 16:18:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Dragon Outlaw
Some Rando wrote:
Max Doobie wrote:
The only people who don't like high-sec miners are the people are described earlier in this post. People who feel the need to coerce others into doing things their way. YOU would prefer me play a certain way so you grief me. It's lame and stupid and I'm salivating at CCPs obvious actions towards this in a patch.

Actually, most people here don't like miners because miners are literally the most terrible players in the game. Hell, miners don't even play the game.


Be careful not to generalize. There are miners out there who are excellent PvPers and often welcome good fights.
Arya Greywolf
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#253 - 2012-10-29 16:19:43 UTC

Blake Gates Heleneto wrote:

What gives you the right to think you can force upon your own dumbass "idea" of how this great game of Eve should be played? Mining is a very viable career choice for many players. If that's how THEY want to play, who are you to say they aren't "actually playing the game"? Your one-sided, flawed logic is almost laughable. Except I feel sorry for you Sad


What gives you the right to think you can force upon your own dumbass "idea" of how this great game of Eve should be played? Pirating, bumping, and ganking are very viable career choices for many players. If that's how THEY want to play, who are you to say they aren't "actually playing the game"? Your one-sided, flawed logic is almost laughable. Except I feel sorry for you Sad
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#254 - 2012-10-29 16:26:01 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
Asuri Kinnes wrote:

Because all the hundreds (thousands?) of miners in game are represented by the 1/2 dozen who post in GD (the most radical anti-bumpers probably being James or his sycophants)? Yeah...

Roll


I also go off the fact that hundreds nay throusands died to us because they didnt fit any tank. They still don't fit a tank. All they did was whine on the forums till CCP fitted a tank for them.

Miners have never adapted to any threat in the 7 or 8 years that barges have been in the game.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#255 - 2012-10-29 16:30:31 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:

Because all the hundreds (thousands?) of miners in game are represented by the 1/2 dozen who post in GD (the most radical anti-bumpers probably being James or his sycophants)? Yeah...

Roll


I also go off the fact that hundreds nay throusands died to us because they didnt fit any tank. They still don't fit a tank. All they did was whine on the forums till CCP fitted a tank for them.

Miners have never adapted to any threat in the 7 or 8 years that barges have been in the game.


They did evolve in one way, their tear ducts are now attached to their fingers Evil

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Robert De'Arneth
#256 - 2012-10-29 16:36:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Robert De'Arneth
Big smile
Riot Girl wrote:
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
I am also one of those AFK cloakers everyone cries about


You AFK cloak in high-sec? As a member of a high-sec mining corp?



who said I afk cloak in high sec? I may mine in high sec , but I do know how to travel to other areas. Big smile Not that what I do is any of your bussiness mind, it's not.

I'm a nerd, you can check my stats!! Skilling Int/Mem at 45 sp per minute is how I mack!     I'm like a lapdog, all bark no bite. 
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#257 - 2012-10-29 16:37:53 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:

Because all the hundreds (thousands?) of miners in game are represented by the 1/2 dozen who post in GD (the most radical anti-bumpers probably being James or his sycophants)? Yeah...

Roll


I also go off the fact that hundreds nay throusands died to us because they didnt fit any tank. They still don't fit a tank. All they did was whine on the forums till CCP fitted a tank for them.

Miners have never adapted to any threat in the 7 or 8 years that barges have been in the game.

Gotcha, you (generic "you") have ganked all miners in the game, and all miners suck.

Random generalizations a go.

Gotcha.

Gotta admit, it must be a warm and fuzzy feeling to be able to single out a group and label them all with 100% assurance. I also don't believe (could be wrong, don't have any friends in CCP/CSM) the ship changes were in response to the whine threads (some of which I *do* believe were planted as red herrings).

I kinda think the mining ship changes were in the works for a long time and it was just serendipity that they came out when they did.

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#258 - 2012-10-29 16:42:30 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:

Because all the hundreds (thousands?) of miners in game are represented by the 1/2 dozen who post in GD (the most radical anti-bumpers probably being James or his sycophants)? Yeah...

Roll

I also go off the fact that hundreds nay throusands died to us because they didnt fit any tank. They still don't fit a tank. All they did was whine on the forums till CCP fitted a tank for them.

Miners have never adapted to any threat in the 7 or 8 years that barges have been in the game.

Sup Bat Country. I heard you were applying Darwinian evolution mechanics to freighters now.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#259 - 2012-10-29 16:44:20 UTC
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:

Because all the hundreds (thousands?) of miners in game are represented by the 1/2 dozen who post in GD (the most radical anti-bumpers probably being James or his sycophants)? Yeah...

Roll


I also go off the fact that hundreds nay throusands died to us because they didnt fit any tank. They still don't fit a tank. All they did was whine on the forums till CCP fitted a tank for them.

Miners have never adapted to any threat in the 7 or 8 years that barges have been in the game.

Gotcha, you (generic "you") have ganked all miners in the game, and all miners suck.

Random generalizations a go.

Gotcha.

Gotta admit, it must be a warm and fuzzy feeling to be able to single out a group and label them all with 100% assurance. I also don't believe (could be wrong, don't have any friends in CCP/CSM) the ship changes were in response to the whine threads (some of which I *do* believe were planted as red herrings).

I kinda think the mining ship changes were in the works for a long time and it was just serendipity that they came out when they did.


Out of 600 miners killed in the caldari ice interdiction not a single one had a tank fitted.

Out of the 1000+ killed in the first gal ice interdiction fewer than 10% had any sort of a tank fitted.

In the last ice interdiction they had, unsuprisingly, no tank fitted to most of them.


I think its safe to say that the vast bulk of miners do not fit a tank. But by all means go out and run your own tests. Also its funny that barges only got an update after the ice interdictions started and one of those changes was to add more base EHP.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#260 - 2012-10-29 16:44:58 UTC
Sidrat Flush wrote:
To be the best miner you must accurately mimick a bot.

This is why mining mechanics must change.

Tsk, bot-aspirant behavior.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?