EVE General Discussion

Not to mention that miners don't actually want to defend themselves or do any kind of thing in game to cause the thing they want to happen to happen. They want someone else to do it for them, namely CCP.

Stop that, it's depressing.

I do.
And that's why every time I read one of your recent posts, I need a hug.

I'll be honest, I took a retriever, booster-in--Reaper and Catalyst out to mine.

I mined scordite. It was maybe 10mil isk/hour at most. It was terrible.


Once I get a bunch of accounts up, and a booster with T2 links in an orca though, it could be decent.

well, this thread would be one of the reasons, why i, as a new player, try to avoid forums...

I started over a month ago and i a am miner. I will just say it - High Sec mining is OP as ****. I am over a month old and i got 1bil in cash. I even got second account in to witch i sink money for missioning. My alt got everything to him provided and he is doing level 3 missions and it can only dream to make the ISK, which my miner does.

So we got 2 camps here, which are both quite wrong.

Moaning miners - Do you really enjoy just go to asteroid and press mine? When i was going to EVE i was expecting to go in to mining corps, which would do proper Operations in dangerous solar systems. i was told about the concept of " miner,hauler,protection " setups... It sounded a lot of fun! In reality it is more profitable to sit in high sec in retriever and mine veldsper, because it brings the biggest income!

Moaning antyminers - There is a reason why you dont do mining, BECAUSE IT IS ******* BORING!!! Its not as AFK as people make it. You still need swap rocks and move, its not like you warp in, set 2 asteroids to mine, then come back after x minutes to haul it back, then rinse and repeat. We have to do this stupid boring ****, because people will always need materials to build those ships, that you lose in hundreds while having fun in PVP. Mining brings profit, but my **** it is BORING!!!

Instead some idiot doing bumping ( no one ever did to me, so i am still to see it in action... ), Lazy miners bitching, anty miners moaning, why not to change a system slightly which will easily sort out Miners and lazy bum miners.
Make Higher grade ORE more profitable. Make miner to go in to low sec, null sec to be looking for expensive ore. We should be sneaking inside low sec and look for GOLD, then wet our pants while looking at huge asteroid of ISK filling. while we mining we would **** ourselfs as we would be open targets! So it would make it a lot more fun for miners, because they get risk in their lifes, low sec would be a bit more, then just random pvp for fun and gate camping. there would be a lot bigger need in protection and merceneries or proper mining fleets. It would kick start stalemate we got now.
Honestly, i am mining veldsper and scordite in high sec and i make **** loads of ISK. I have no need going in to low sec or null sec. i just dont care about it. all the profit is here. and some bunch of twats doing that bumping, not going to change anything, it will just make people pissed of and problem still in the same position.

shadowhearth Eto, we're not "Moaning antyminers" - we see a problem and are actively doing something about it. Miners see a problem and are hoping for Divine Intervention by CCP while moaning on the forums.

If there was collision damage in the game I'm pretty sure there'd constantly be a huge number of threads complaining about how broken collision damage is.

That's something that only you can do yourself. Instead of complaining about it, make it happen.

we can do it ourselfs? hmmm... ever heard of supply and demand thing? so far demand for it is huge, and feck all we can do, only mine it and sell it to you. There is a buyer to buy it for 18isk, so why on earth i would just go and sell it for 5isk? force me to sell it for 5isk, make it your game, make it your goal. Or do i just shoot myself in a foot and sell it for a fiver, so that other manufacturer would make that profit i am giving away? Its a free market, no laws, no buddies, no hugs and kisses. FORCE me , as a miner, to drop prices, instead of have some ******* who is just bumping my ship, what a stupid and silly idea lol, i just retarget my stuff. i got 3 monitors, so i can still play other alt or other game, while he wastes his time on my retriever lol.
Why should i be mining rare ore in dangerous solar systems, if i wont make as much profit as in high sec, thats where to problem is.

I am for making Mining more fun, make it more dangerous. Me earning that 1bil by hiding in low secs, hiring mercs and interact with other people to make that 1 mil, would be a lot more fun and valuable then just sit in high sec and look at that asteroid and then switch to another one.

Now try ice mining where you warp into a belt, target an icicle, hit the f keys and leave, some time later , I believe about 45-60 minutes your cargo is just about full so you come back and dock your ship,rinse and repeat. Ice is an infinite resource, it never goes pop, you can mine the same bit all year long without ever needing to do anything other that the above steps.

People who mine rocks are not the concern at the moment, it's the people who mine ice.