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{ a nice idea for the fighters and fighter bombers }
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zus
TxivYawg
#1 - 2012-10-26 22:36:31 UTC  |  Edited by: zus
what if we were able to use any fighters and fighter bombers remotely from any station no matter where we were and fly it using a joystick

that means that the vessel will have to have a fixed guns facing forward and the pilots skills to apply on to the vessel, so the FC don't complain why I did not so up in person

this is recipe of lots of fun with sum RED SANGRIA . Twisted
Romvex
TURN LEFT
#2 - 2012-10-26 23:56:26 UTC
go play space invaders
zus
TxivYawg
#3 - 2012-10-27 14:46:56 UTC
Romvex wrote:
go play space invaders


isn't it what EVE isRoll
Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-10-27 16:21:32 UTC
This would require a total overhaul of the game's netcode as well as several other core mechanics changes.
Kitt JT
True North.
#5 - 2012-10-27 17:07:18 UTC
This has been mentioned countless times. Why is it a dumb idea?

Chiefly, its impossible to do without a MUCH more powerful server.

The eve client updates from the server once per second. this is why you can have a ship "locked" with guns hot, and you sometimes won't shoot it before it warps.

Tracking dozens or hundreds of joystick movements is incredibly taxing on a server, and is the same reason most flight sims or shooters are restricted to <100 players.

So unless you want to be flying with a refresh cycle of once per second, then there's no way to this.

And this is just the technical reason.
Verity Sovereign
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-10-27 17:08:07 UTC
how about in combination with DUST...
Carrier launches fighters and fighter bombers towards the planet....

... log on to dust, and pilot said fighters and fighter bombers - no targeting data needed from the infantry, unlike planetary bombardment with guns/missiles.
Angeal MacNova
Holefood Inc.
Warriors of the Blood God
#7 - 2012-10-28 18:51:57 UTC
Kitt JT wrote:

The eve client updates from the server once per second. this is why you can have a ship "locked" with guns hot, and you sometimes won't shoot it before it warps.


That's called 'Ping' or simply lag.

Data is received and sent in milliseconds hence a ping of 100 is the time, in milliseconds, for information to go to the server and back again.

When I hit the button to make my character walk in station, it doesn't take 1 full second EVER. If info was sent once every second, DUST would not be possible and CCP has been wasting their time.

Direct control over my ship would be great. It would especially be useful for flying frigs since it would allow a pilot to avoid flying directly toward or away from other enemies while they orbit.

As for the idea about direct control of fighters and bombers, I don't know.

Personally I think it would be pretty cool if you could buy some frigs, equip them, and then put them into the drone bay of a carrier and use actual equipped frigs as drones.


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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#8 - 2012-10-28 18:58:02 UTC
Angeal MacNova wrote:
That's called 'Ping' or simply lag.
No, it's called “server tick” and has nothing to do with routing speed.

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When I hit the button to make my character walk in station, it doesn't take 1 full second EVER. If info was sent once every second, DUST would not be possible and CCP has been wasting their time.
That's because a) WIS isn't multiplayer, and b) because Dust isn't using the same server software (or scale) as EVE. It also has very little to do with how often you send information to the server, but rather with how often the server bothers to look at the information you've sent and give you an update on the world.

EVE's server tick is 1 Hz. The amount of alteration that would be needed to the server code and hardware to allow any kind of sensible or useful direct input would be absolutely massive.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#9 - 2012-10-28 18:59:17 UTC
I want a fighter boomer.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#10 - 2012-10-28 19:02:05 UTC
Mag's wrote:
I want a fighter boomer.
Here you go.
Angeal MacNova
Holefood Inc.
Warriors of the Blood God
#11 - 2012-10-28 19:15:49 UTC
Well, I've been searching and so far I haven't found anything except forum posts about this 1 sec refresh. So basically nothing but hearsay. Anyone got a solid reference to this?

http://www.projectvaulderie.com/goodnight-sweet-prince/

http://www.projectvaulderie.com/the-untold-story/

CCP's true, butthurt, colors.

Because those who can't do themselves keep others from doing too.
A8ina
Red.Leaf's Tavern
#12 - 2012-10-28 19:24:30 UTC
Mag's wrote:
I want a fighter boomer.


Would you like some RED SANGRIA to Lol
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#13 - 2012-10-28 19:26:14 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Quote:
Well, I've been searching and so far I haven't found anything except forum posts about this 1 sec refresh. So basically nothing but hearsay. Anyone got a solid reference to this?


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1561296#post1561296

How did you Veterans start?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#14 - 2012-10-28 19:29:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Angeal MacNova wrote:
Well, I've been searching and so far I haven't found anything except forum posts about this 1 sec refresh. So basically nothing but hearsay. Anyone got a solid reference to this?
Yes. I would also say that if you didn't find anything, you didn't search very hard…
zus
TxivYawg
#15 - 2012-10-28 19:35:48 UTC
Mag's wrote:
I want a fighter boomer.


okay I fix it for you my friend Blink