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Honestly, I'm a bit underwhelmed by the new Dessies. While I can understand the "lets use the 'other' weapon system" that's a bit too simplistic imo. They add nothing and do nothing compared to the current ones. They still **** frigs, they still suck against cruisers and they're still very very niche.

The Amarr one especially sucks, first of all the looks are... wrong, it looks like a giant bug from the top and is amazingly similar to the Coercer (while the other races have a very different look compared to the current ones) and looks like a lazy design by someone who doesn't understand Amarr design language. Then we get to the bonuses, range to nos/neut sounds cool but it doesn't do anything on a ship like this, it'll pwn frigs regardless of it and it'll die to cruisers regardless of it, especially with the low amount of midslots. It also forces it into scram range (not like it's fast&agile enough to avoid it). Then the split weapon systems, really... REALLY? Unbonused and useless.

Gallente one makes sense and is close to being OP, Caldari one makes sense ofcourse, the Minmatar does not make sense (if anything the Minnie one should be mixed weapon systems) and all 3 of those look awesome in their own way. The Amarr one adds nothing other than "look it's not laser based", it's bonuses are just weird and it's a terrible eye sore.

I actually really like the look of the Amarr Destroyer that was shown. It looks like a bug like has been said. I was thinking the Amarr stuff is starting to look more and more insect inspired. If the Amarr Destroyer landed on a planet - and about a dozen legs came out on each side - that would rock!!!

Mega happy about my new Minmatar Destroyer. It looks nice :)

You're right, what were they thinking? No other plan of rollout could possibly make more sense than yours, considering your extensive experience with MMORPG balancing changes and feature rollouts.

After-all, one man with one closed mind must know better than an organization with multiple teams all working on many projects at once. Your method is the epitome of efficiency, and will certainly not cause an increase in backlogs while several teams wait for their chance to go through the Dinsdale turn-style of approval.

I eagerly await the day when they realize your brilliance and announce the hiring of CCP Tunnafish and it turns out to be you.

(The incorrect double-n will be a dead giveaway though)

honestly i thought that the Amarr dessie looked alot more like the torpedo frigate from homeworld 2

There is also the idea, Kitten, to use what is said to be CCP's official new policy: Iterative Roll-outs. We could see the Dessies come out, and then shortly (and I mean less than a month), some of the cruisers. CCP loves to dump a load, and see who mucks their way to the top.

lol love these vids. Good stuffz the design of the new dessies

Have to say the Amarr design is a big disappointment. All the sketched designs shown in the video were miles above the final product. Amarr ships are supposed to be sleek and shiny not ribbed and unwieldy.

I love that little gallente bit. Drone boat, is it? Mmmm-hmmm.

I gotta say that overall, this expansion is looking more like a Crucible and less like an Inferno (I can make my way around in the new inventory, but something in it got borked when it comes to using it inside a POS with CHA and SMA).

Now completely redesign the looks of the dominix to make it look cool, and I'll be a happy little hedonistic democrat.

I take back all the grumbles I had about the new Minmatar hull. The original renders made it look horrific, but seeing it fly through that gate... want. I even like the pillbox hat cockpit. And anything that continues the tradition of "who would put solar panels here? Oh, right, we're Minmatar, that's just extra flair armor" is alright in my book. I'm not one for missiles, but this looks like an awesome little ship.

As to the 'funny' bits: CCP Guard in prison was amusing. His 'rescuer' and all that... how about we spend more time with the concept art, or in space renders, or anything but these mini-plays? Please?

Otherwise, keep up the great work. Winter is coming.

Yes, I can see why you are disappointed with the new Destroyers: adds a new kind of weapon system to a class of ships that are ALL turret based, can't take on cruisers (too bad they rule over frigates, kick ass in wolfpacks, and very simply aren't designed to take on a ship like that without numbers) , they're still just frigates (with twice as many guns of any I know), the Amarr one looks ike a bug... just like most Amarr ships do, the CCP devs don't understand the look and feel of they're own product (shame, shame on them), the Amarr one is mixed weapon system (go figure it's Amarr and sucks, and incidentally is similar to a few Amarr ships whose names I don't care to look up), the Amarr one doesn't have lasers (I think they said it did, no?), the Minmatar one is not mixed weapon systems like the Tempest (but unlike, obviously, the existing destroyer, but also, by and large, the Hurricane, Tornado, Tempest, Maelstrom, and if you will permit me, the Machariel and who only knows which frigates).

Yes, I think you are quite correct. Many good and well thought out points.