EVE General Discussion

Maybe the noobs should stay in frigs longer? If new players (myself included at the time) got over this bigger is better mentality then they'd actually be able to skill up their core skills instead of training for a Titan after being in the game for 2 hours.

Give me a choice of any ship in the game to fly and I'll take a Navy Issue Caracal or an Interceptor over some massive DPS battleship any day. So as a player who has capital skills who prefers a cruiser I don't think it'll hurt little Johnny to sit in a frig for a few extra weeks.

So in reality, if prices go up the noobs will stay in smaller ships for longer which in turn will force them to skill up their core navigation/weaponry skills and in the end they'll end up better pilots. HUZZAH, the New Order has found another way to continue to improve the game. We are now providing important learning opportunities for new players across New Eden.

ALL HAIL THE NEW ORDER, ALL HAIL THE CODE, ALL HAIL JAMES 315 THE SAVIOR AND PROTECTOR OF HIGH SEC.

I only started (afk) mining after being pointed at minerbumping.

James does not like people afk mining and decided to take action against them.
If you are a miner and don't like being bumped YOU can take action against him and his agents. You can pay some minor blackmail fee. Or you can move to another system. Or you can suicide gank bumpers. Or you can find other ways to mine. Or you can try to reduce mining cycles lost by more active piloting.

James adds content to the game. I applaud his initiative.
I admit I don't know how I would respond if I was targeted but I would probably just take the loss in mining yield for granted and not pay the fee even though it would be the smart thing to do from an economical point of view.

You accuse me of something I did not do ... accusing only you of afk mining. "You" can also be plural.

If you want to fight them, then why have you not wardec-ed them? Why must CCP treat you different/better? We're all paying this game (in one way or another).

HTFU or STFU.

NPC alt posters are all belligerent undesirables.

James is playing the game the way it was meant to be played, unlike afk miners and botters. In fact, emergent gameplay pioneers are the epitome of desirable, as they help demonstrate the possibilities in EVE online. Things like hulkageddon and burn jita are what make EVE famous, not undesirables such as yourself, who do nothing but f1 space rocks 23/7

I do not see an issue with James and his New Order extending their actions to bot/afk sympathisers and other undesirables.

While you are certainly allowed to mine your rocks and even defend your fellow undesirables under the EULA/TOS/whatever, James and the New Order are equally allowed to disrupt it. That is the sandbox. That is EVE.

In this thread we have even discussed the tactics and mechanics available to you to deal with James and the New Order, but you seem to refuse to attempt any of them, citing the "difficulty" or "cost" of pursuing such avenues of defense or retaliation. It is a shame that you let your own vices (greed, laziness) further disrupt your actions.

…which is itself EULA-sanctioned and legitimate game play.

Sure there is. You can try to dodge him, or you can just blow him up.

…and they're not all going to come at you at once since that would mean that 4–14 of them would miss, and that would be a waste of their energy.

So organise yourself. Take a corp each. Or just blow them up anyway.

Regardless, claiming that there are no mechanics to defend against it is blatantly dishonest.

They do come all at once actually.



I'll concede at the war dec point. I just don't have enough isk to dec them all.

Also who mines in a megathron?