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Six months in Jita

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Destru Kaneda
Arzad Police Department
#121 - 2012-10-22 08:46:42 UTC
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#122 - 2012-10-22 09:29:07 UTC
Destru Kaneda wrote:
Bump for blue post.
Ain't gonna happen.

Jita spammers aren't selling their evil spam to RMT'ers so CCP doesn't lose money, they only make it.

Player "happiness" doesn't count for much in this instance as people are going to travel to the trade hub regardless.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#123 - 2012-10-22 09:30:49 UTC
Adoro wrote:
Didnt read whole thread, but this brings up an idea:

Import external block list (xml file). Much like the fittings and overview. You can share a block list with other people. Our friend Chribba here (or anyone who has too much time and too much veldspar) could generate a new block list every * days we all can enjoy.

If CCP doesnt block/ban spam botters, atleast give us the tools to fight against them

Would be a nice feature for sure, the downside with it though, would be that CCP might feel less obligated to actually do something about it - now that we can easily as a community identify and share blocklists.

However, the idea of such a thing is good, and could easily be automated via eve-live.com for real-time lists of pilots behaving in a certain way.

/c

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Demolishar
United Aggression
#124 - 2012-10-22 10:40:43 UTC
And did you collect all this information manually?
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#125 - 2012-10-22 13:17:55 UTC
Demolishar wrote:
And did you collect all this information manually?

Well the client does the initial "collecting", if that's what you mean. Then it gets put it in a database that I run queries against. So if the question is, do I have a bot/macro/software that intercepts the chat traffic? No. It is all collected with the regular client that both of us use.

/c

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Demolishar
United Aggression
#126 - 2012-10-22 14:59:30 UTC
I for one would like to see less bot-spam, if only to reduce competiton.
Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#127 - 2012-10-22 15:06:31 UTC

Great work.

I endorse stealth gagging spammers.

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Tali Ambraelle
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#128 - 2012-10-22 20:19:01 UTC
What database/program do you use for this stuff? SAS?
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#129 - 2012-10-22 20:41:10 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Demolishar wrote:
And did you collect all this information manually?

Well the client does the initial "collecting", if that's what you mean. Then it gets put it in a database that I run queries against. So if the question is, do I have a bot/macro/software that intercepts the chat traffic? No. It is all collected with the regular client that both of us use.

/c
So was this a 23.5/7 operation? You did this every day, day in day out? You logged in just after DT every day?
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#130 - 2012-10-22 21:11:41 UTC
Working as intended. Jita absorbs all the scammers and spammers to protect the rest of EVE.

Who really pays attention to them, anyway?

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#131 - 2012-10-22 21:55:08 UTC
Graic Gabtar wrote:
Doc Severide wrote:
I'd bet that volunteers would line up to do this for free if CCP would give them the tools to do the job...
Yeah, and that would never end badly.

Aye. The people who most want those tools are the bot spammers. They can see what is done to detect them, adjust their bots, and continue bot spamming in safety.

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Skaz
Skazmanian Industries
#132 - 2012-10-22 22:50:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Skaz
highonpop wrote:
The real test is, Will the CCP devs do anything?

No, these people pay their subscription, they wont ban them.


If those spammers are smart and frugal they're using 14-day trials for spamming...

edit:

Splendid work by Chribba! As a statistic nerd I adore this work Cool

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YuuKnow
The Scope
#133 - 2012-10-23 05:43:29 UTC

The thing is.... is Jita Spam necessarily bad? The systems, spammed chat is a symbol of its industrialness and megahub status.

Its like complaining that there are too many lights in Vegas.... its part of the scenary and personality that makes it what it is.

yk
Tali Ambraelle
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#134 - 2012-10-23 12:47:33 UTC
YuuKnow wrote:

The thing is.... is Jita Spam necessarily bad? The systems, spammed chat is a symbol of its industrialness and megahub status.

Its like complaining that there are too many lights in Vegas.... its part of the scenary and personality that makes it what it is.

yk


Except the spam is by bots and the bots are spamming scams. There's a difference between a street of silent and brilliant bright advertisements versus loud noises and constant screaming in your ear and face...
Adoro
Below the Asteroids Ltd.
#135 - 2012-10-25 09:13:38 UTC
Graic Gabtar wrote:
Chribba wrote:
Demolishar wrote:
And did you collect all this information manually?

Well the client does the initial "collecting", if that's what you mean. Then it gets put it in a database that I run queries against. So if the question is, do I have a bot/macro/software that intercepts the chat traffic? No. It is all collected with the regular client that both of us use.

/c
So was this a 23.5/7 operation? You did this every day, day in day out? You logged in just after DT every day?


Thats what I was wondering too...
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#136 - 2012-10-25 10:18:02 UTC
Adoro wrote:
Graic Gabtar wrote:
Chribba wrote:
Demolishar wrote:
And did you collect all this information manually?

Well the client does the initial "collecting", if that's what you mean. Then it gets put it in a database that I run queries against. So if the question is, do I have a bot/macro/software that intercepts the chat traffic? No. It is all collected with the regular client that both of us use.

/c
So was this a 23.5/7 operation? You did this every day, day in day out? You logged in just after DT every day?


Thats what I was wondering too...

Logging in after DT then just leaving the client online. If you have a better way I'd be happy to share your knowledge.

I don't sit an type the pilot name, timestamp and message by hand into the database, if so I wouldn't be quick enough plus that would make me sleep an average of too little every day.

/c

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Slappy McPewpew
Resurrection Complex
#137 - 2012-10-25 14:17:08 UTC
A++++++

quick easy and calms the nerves