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CCP allow miners to defend against bumpers ?
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#201 - 2012-10-25 02:24:06 UTC
The CandyGirl wrote:
i just have 3 things to say about this.


1) This whole situation is amazing


2) James315 for CSM chairman!

3) I like pie


God can you imagine the tears if we got James315 onto the CSM? we could refill the Aral Sea & still have enough left over to run desalination plants for centuries to come.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Vanyr Andrard
VacuumTube
#202 - 2012-10-25 02:34:13 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Zkaor wrote:
Maybe not velicoty related but more the distace the bumpee was moved ?? I would assume something can be programmed to only happen (flg bumper) if a mining laser or whatever is active on a given ship. y/n ? idk.

Why not just have CCP magic ore into your holds.



Amusingly, this is how mining lasers already work. You shoot the asteroid with an orange laser, and CCP magics ore into your hold. If you use T2 strips, then a little icelandic wizard appears every so often and speeds up the process. You didn't know?
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#203 - 2012-10-25 02:40:54 UTC
I have an excellent idea to stop James 315, CCP gives him a holy corp from which he can never leave and everyone is abel to war dec.
Suddenly we get the answer as to weather bumping should be considered a war offense or not.
(Because seriously I heard a war started over the usage of mate, and if true means he should be free to be wardecced for it)

Or better wars follow you for the duration of the war dec. wars are good for one week and must then wait a week.


Does mass in a cargohold affect the ship?
I havent found it to personally.
If yes then get CCP to have ore be like neutronium.
Sure you wont be aligning very soon but then you cant be bumped.
None ofthe Above
#204 - 2012-10-25 02:46:20 UTC
As a note of clarification:

What James 315 is doing was considered bannable griefing in the past::

http://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/index.php?title=Griefing&action=historysubmit&diff=55598&oldid=41295

But is not now.

The only end-game content in EVE Online is the crap that makes you rage quit.
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#205 - 2012-10-25 02:54:56 UTC
None ofthe Above wrote:
As a note of clarification:

What James 315 is doing was considered bannable griefing in the past::

http://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/index.php?title=Griefing&action=historysubmit&diff=55598&oldid=41295

But is not now.

Well, yes and no. Even back then, the Wiki says it was only griefing when used "outside of a fight". But the New Order only bumps to fight for what's right, to fight for a better highsec. So even back then it would have been allowed. Smile

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NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#206 - 2012-10-25 02:57:21 UTC
James 315 wrote:
None ofthe Above wrote:
As a note of clarification:

What James 315 is doing was considered bannable griefing in the past::

http://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/index.php?title=Griefing&action=historysubmit&diff=55598&oldid=41295

But is not now.

Well, yes and no. Even back then, the Wiki says it was only griefing when used "outside of a fight". But the New Order only bumps to fight for what's right, to fight for a better highsec. So even back then it would have been allowed. Smile

If you want to fight come to Ravarath and start shooting my retriever.
Otherwise you have no fight and thus can not claim exception.
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#207 - 2012-10-25 03:00:44 UTC
NEONOVUS wrote:
James 315 wrote:
None ofthe Above wrote:
As a note of clarification:

What James 315 is doing was considered bannable griefing in the past::

http://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/index.php?title=Griefing&action=historysubmit&diff=55598&oldid=41295

But is not now.

Well, yes and no. Even back then, the Wiki says it was only griefing when used "outside of a fight". But the New Order only bumps to fight for what's right, to fight for a better highsec. So even back then it would have been allowed. Smile

If you want to fight come to Ravarath and start shooting my retriever.
Otherwise you have no fight and thus can not claim exception.

I'd be more than happy to take you up on your offer. So which of the three Tests will you be invoking? Smile

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SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#208 - 2012-10-25 03:01:42 UTC
Samwise Everquest wrote:
Shalua Rui wrote:
...one word: collisions... problem solved. Blink


I agree, warping to zero on ship or bumping should result in both ships taking damage as well as your cargo getting rearranged. Also the Incursus should be able to ram their spear into someone's hull.


Brb training Gallente.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#209 - 2012-10-25 03:03:28 UTC
How you people manage to sit and share all your anguishing ordeal with us is just beyond me. I salute you, fine brave men and women, who post on our family friendly forum rather than putting some ice on that butthurt.

Personally, I would seek medical help if any part of my body started sizzling.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#210 - 2012-10-25 03:03:53 UTC
Andski wrote:
purge the carebears and save this game before it's too late

Who gonna do that? You?

Besides, take the bears out, wat you gonna do wid yer time man? We da only enemee you got left in da game.

well. 'cept maybe some testies soon. hehehehe....

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#211 - 2012-10-25 03:15:12 UTC


Confirming all that this thread has achieved is that tomorrow I'm going to donate money to James 315's cause.

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#212 - 2012-10-25 05:43:11 UTC
Dont lie your self, we all know bumping it self is most stupid and unrealistic mechanic in game, look at World of Tanks how it works while somone want (bump other) mass + speed in most cases = big fail, while in EvE mechanic alow player to avoid basic physics rules, however here no way to avoid this because of game mechanic and ships - obiects behaviour.

Somtime EvE is more parody and comedy than space simulator, like bumping form big asteroid which accelerate ship after bump to 30.000 ms for a while...

I know bumping is part of game but for me is pure nonsense, and people who use it often just harass other using stupid nonsensical, foolish game mechanic.

EvE isn't game, its style of living.
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#213 - 2012-10-25 05:53:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Destiny Corrupted
Don't worry, a couple months of whining and they'll give barges capital mass, or just turn off clipping entirely.

"Bumping was never intended to be profitable."

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#214 - 2012-10-25 06:03:27 UTC
The bumping 'Nerf' is already on the way.
See Tesselation and how it does away with the magic bumping 'bubble' and means they have to actually connect ship to ship in order to bump you. Though I doubt it will stop james, he probably aims well enough anyway.
Peyerate
North Shore Ghost Army
Goonswarm Federation
#215 - 2012-10-25 06:22:34 UTC
I've been following James315's blog for quite a while now and have enjoyed both his emergent style of game play and his writing, but haven't taken part in bumping yet.

After seeing all the idiotic arguments made by these miners, I have started a new character for bumping.

Looking forward to harvesting their tears!

ALL HAIL JAMES315, PROTECTOR OF HIGHSEC.
pussnheels
Viziam
#216 - 2012-10-25 07:14:21 UTC
What is wrong with bumping miners?
As far i can understand if you are at your keyboard it is just a minor nuiscance
And we all know you shouldn t AFK mine

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
pussnheels
Viziam
#217 - 2012-10-25 07:18:02 UTC
Peyerate wrote:
I've been following James315's blog for quite a while now and have enjoyed both his emergent style of game play and his writing, but haven't taken part in bumping yet.

After seeing all the idiotic arguments made by these miners, I have started a new character for bumping.

Looking forward to harvesting their tears!

ALL HAIL JAMES315, PROTECTOR OF HIGHSEC.

And we all know that james is scared to death of engaging something that can actual fight back
Can you imagine the shame and humiliation of losing a ship to a real player , and what will all his WoW friends think of him if he did

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#218 - 2012-10-25 07:24:00 UTC
What next? allow miners to mine spacerocks from station?

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave
Kuroder Ortnagar
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#219 - 2012-10-25 07:24:05 UTC
How about a button where you can switch bumping off, so that your ship doesn't react but the other ship
that hasn't switched bumping off.
But if both ships have switched it off, the smallest ship will get destroyed and the
larger ship gets some damage approximately to the hullsize of the other ship.

I'm all for suicide bumpingPirate
Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#220 - 2012-10-25 07:26:51 UTC
Would be interesting to have a collision system with ship damage based on mass and inertia. Course things would get out of hand, someone would shoehorn 100mn mwd's on a fleet of drakes and ram a titan and all hell would break loose. The game would go from internet spaceships to internet demolition derby in one fell swoop.