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What determines rental fee?
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Redshirt I
Jeep Enterprise
#1 - 2012-10-23 04:34:34 UTC
My office rental fee jumped from 7m/month to 20m/month. What factors play into what I am charged? I can only guess it's because I started storing a percentage of my Ore intake in my office that the price jumped.

Thanks in advance

Redshirt
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#2 - 2012-10-23 04:42:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
At the bottom of the page EVElopedia - Renting offices there is:
Office Fees - Forum thread detailing the mechanics for office prices.

Estel Arador wrote:
Office fees are calculated daily at downtime; the daily change is based on the number of free offices at downtime. Prices rise when there are no available offices; prices stay the same when there is 1 available office. When there are 2 or more available offices, prices drop - the size of the drop is based on the number of available offices. Office fees are always truncated to 0 decimals. The absolute minimum office fee is 10,000 isk.
Redshirt I
Jeep Enterprise
#3 - 2012-10-23 04:45:40 UTC
Excellent, thanks! I was stupidly relying on the search button.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#4 - 2012-10-23 05:32:10 UTC
Theoretically, a wealthy company could, through various alt/front companies, flood a particular station with offices and force all the other less-wealthy companies out, yes?

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Tau Cabalander
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Working Stiffs
#5 - 2012-10-23 07:01:13 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Theoretically, a wealthy company could, through various alt/front companies, flood a particular station with offices and force all the other less-wealthy companies out, yes?

I suppose. Anything is possible in EVE.
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
United Caldari Space Command.
#6 - 2012-10-23 18:07:38 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Theoretically, a wealthy company could, through various alt/front companies, flood a particular station with offices and force all the other less-wealthy companies out, yes?


If they simply wish to grief, then yes. There would be no way to profit though

Always kinda wished there was a way to invest in office real estate or speculate. But whatever

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Sophia Jackson
Ladies Auxiliary Tuba Orchestra
#7 - 2012-10-23 21:59:46 UTC
There isn't another base multiplier affecting base rate though? Free slots aside, it seems a place like Rens or Dodixie charges far more for a spot than a backwater system. Or I'm horribly wrong Oops

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Tau Cabalander
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Working Stiffs
#8 - 2012-10-24 00:22:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Sophia Jackson wrote:
There isn't another base multiplier affecting base rate though? Free slots aside, it seems a place like Rens or Dodixie charges far more for a spot than a backwater system. Or I'm horribly wrong Oops

Nope. It is just occupancy.

Rent rises a lot faster (+5% per day when full) than it drops. If the station is full for 7 days, the rent will rise to 140.7%

Keep in mind that rent is paid every 30 days, so the next bill can be quite a shocker. Rent in a station full for 30 days will rise to 432%

Days for rent to drop by 50%:
2 free offices: 320 days
3 free offices: 159 days
4 free offices: 106 days
5 free offices: 80 days
6 free offices: 64 days
7 free offices: 53 days
8 free offices: 46 days
9 free offices: 40 days
10 free offices: 36 days
Twoso
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-10-24 15:34:52 UTC
i think total time of occupancy figures in to the total. i.e. if a station has had 10 offices filled for 3 years, the overall price will be higher. I feel fairly confident that the price rises even when there is more than one office free. There are plenty of stations where there are more than 1 office free, the station is in some backwater and likely never had complete occupancy, yet the rent is more than 10k.
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#10 - 2012-10-26 18:31:45 UTC
Twoso wrote:
i think total time of occupancy figures in to the total. i.e. if a station has had 10 offices filled for 3 years, the overall price will be higher. I feel fairly confident that the price rises even when there is more than one office free. There are plenty of stations where there are more than 1 office free, the station is in some backwater and likely never had complete occupancy, yet the rent is more than 10k.

Not exactly. It is still the same formula. It is just that those system stay full and have been full for a long long time, so the price keeps going up as long as they are full.

My question is why I have never seen a station where you can not rent an office. Even in Jita 4-4 you can rent an office if you are willing to pay the crazy high price. Do stations rent offices beyond what the code considers 100% occupancy? For Example if Jita 4-4 is full and the price was say 550 mil per month for an office there. Would you still be able to rent an office at that price an in turn drive the price up even higher after the next update?
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#11 - 2012-10-26 20:31:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
All NPC stations have 24 offices. My station has been full (0 offices available), but it doesn't last for long. I've also seen Jita 4-4 with 0 offices available.

If all the offices are full, the rent goes up 5% per day.

Keeping in mind that the rental period is 30 days, assuming you are half way through the rental period when the station becomes full, the rent will be double in 15 days when it is time to renew.

Rent multiplier = (1 + 5% full station rent increase) ^ 15 days full = 2.079

Chances are if the rent is double for the next month, some people will leave the station.