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Dev Blog: More from you and less from the evil nasty NPC

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Andre Vauban
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2012-10-23 18:57:05 UTC
Nice change. I like it.

However, for the love of God can we please place assembled ships into containers? I really really really want to be able to restrict access to who has access to what corporation ships with more granularity and actually have an access log on who takes what? While you're at it, can you increase the capacity of the station warehouse so we could fit at least a single assembled dreads into it?


Akrasjel Lanate
Lanate Industries
#42 - 2012-10-23 19:12:23 UTC
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Warde Guildencrantz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#43 - 2012-10-23 19:18:35 UTC
Eon Ending wrote:
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Wibla wrote:
Will we be able to assemble a station container in a POS CHA for audit logging etc?

To tell you the truth I didn't test that but I actually don't think it will work. We probably check it by group so no matter if it is packaged or not it won't. I will ask about making it happen though.

Please Please Please pretty pretty please allow us to put the station container in a POS CHA.

The Wormholers are going to LOVE you, even if we have to bring a freighter in - it would still be amazingly wonderful to have an audit trail.

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The Conference Elite
#44 - 2012-10-23 19:26:37 UTC
I like it. It will save me a few annoyances in practice, and I like the idea of the player-base building everything.

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Tequila Breeze
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2012-10-23 19:29:51 UTC
I'd love to have a freighter can that had tab's, so i could keep my ammo and missiles apart from each other but in the same location, or tree, just hate dumping every thing into the same damn can.
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#46 - 2012-10-23 19:35:29 UTC
Nice, all our containers are belong to us.


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Eric Raeder
No Fee Too High
#47 - 2012-10-23 19:41:29 UTC
Will we be able to manufacture these items in POS assembly arrays? What sort will it take?
Jace Errata
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#48 - 2012-10-23 19:47:41 UTC
Hello! Apparently questions will only be answered if they're here (even if a dev can clearly see them and respond elsewhere..) so here we go.

Will NPC sell orders for cans and probes be cut off immediately on release, or will they be reduced to a reasonable size and allowed to run out in order to prevent a critical shortage and corresponding price jump while player production catches up to demand?


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CCP Phantom
C C P Alliance
#49 - 2012-10-23 19:48:40 UTC
Two step wrote:
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Sparkle Pony Inc
#50 - 2012-10-23 19:49:47 UTC
This is a useful change, with one TINY little wart.

Could you please spread these blueprints around more widely? Because, I'm having trouble with the idea that NOBODY IN THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE except Amarr Constructions knows how to make a box with a lock on it. Or that the Amarrians, with their advanced box-with-a-lock technology, can't make a box without one.
Sephira Galamore
Inner Beard Society
#51 - 2012-10-23 19:59:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Sephira Galamore
Will packaged containers assemble themselves when jettisoned like ships?

// Edit:
Aff, forgot they already do now - just that currently there's no difference in m³ packaged vs. unpackaged.. Nvm then :p
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#52 - 2012-10-23 20:11:33 UTC
Welp. I'm never sorting my **** again.

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Lieam Thellere
The CodeX Alliance Executive Holdings Corporation
The CodeX Alliance
#53 - 2012-10-23 20:13:48 UTC
Sofia Wolf wrote:
Vincent Athena wrote:
Will packaged containers be able to be placed inside containers?

Yes, but that will result in destruction of of both containers, all items in them, and opening of a rift/wormhole to astral plane.

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Liu Ellens
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2012-10-23 20:28:24 UTC

Also, reiterating: placing repackaged container into others?

And to grasp for even (unrelated) more: placing assembled container into General Freight Container - please - for tidiness!

Well, they oughta know what to do with them hogs out there for shure.

Witchking Angmar
#55 - 2012-10-23 20:47:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Witchking Angmar
That's cool and all, but being as big as they are, building new station warehouses will still be cheaper and less painful than moving them.
Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe
#56 - 2012-10-23 20:53:20 UTC
Mistress Rose
Defensores Fidei
#57 - 2012-10-23 20:53:52 UTC
Dear CCP:

LOVE these changes....just a quick suggestion.

Gallente BPO seller: change Roden to Chemal Tech
Caldari BPO seller: change Ishukone to Mercantile Club

While your in there adding BPOs to Amarr Constructions....TAKE OUT THE STABBER BPO.
I bug reported this AGES ago. Amarr Constructions shouldnt be selling a Minny cruiser BPO.

+ 1 good job otherwise
Inquisitor Tyr
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#58 - 2012-10-23 21:23:21 UTC
Could you please consider adding some additional container sizes that can be placed, assembled with contents, into Freighters other than General Freight Containers?

I understand the current containers cant be placed into freighters as their capacity is more than their volume and doing so would inflate the cargo capacity.

What I would like to see is a few smaller options;

Small Freight Container - 200m3 volume / 200m3 capacity (great for blueprints and all those hundreds of small things that need splitting up for organizing but take up little actuall volume)
- e.g. Many industrialists have their hundreds of blueprints divided into dozens of containers based on their function.

Medium Freight Container - 10,000m3 volume + Capacity (useful for when you are moving modules for your freinds.)
- Its rare that my corp lives close to a trade hub. "Im going to Jita, need anything?" is a comment I think we've all seen. Well when your corp lives 40 jumps from Jita, you tend to get a lot of "yes... please get me X while you are there" And then suddenly you have a dozen peoples stuff and you have to lump it all together since you can only fit so many general freight containters in a freighter (usually not nearlly filled to capacity).

The Limits of the General Freight container for logistical purposes is worse for Jump Freighters as they can only accomodate 3.
Anathema Matou
Moonmaiden Ltd.
#59 - 2012-10-23 21:37:45 UTC
20k ISK value station containers @ 10,000 m3 volume is not very... viable. Please reconsider.
You could use Shuttles as a rough guidance in that price regime, taking into account the current rates for bulk transport. (Same applies to the larger versions of station containers.)
Alx Warlord
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2012-10-23 21:38:03 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
More market stuff! YAY!

Hey FoxFour, wait a second!

Aren't CCP planning to revamp the POS system and also the Moon mining system soon!? This is a must for the game-play! And this was one of the most agreed topic in the last CSM meeting!!!

This means that you are giving to players 3 BPOs that will become obsolete in a short time!! The moon survey probes ones. Or are you planning to turn them into different things as this changes arrives?!