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silentalleycat
Sebiestor Tribe
#1 - 2012-10-23 07:51:38 UTC
probably a silly question , but i can't seem to find a clear answer on the evelopedia and nobody in the corp actuall knows

We , the corp recently moved to nullsec and to help the industrial oriented members in our corp we got ourself a rorqual
with all the bells and whistles on it and in less than 24 hours i have capital industrial ship lvl 4 and probably going for lvl 5 afterwards

But how does this orecompression work game wise , i know what it does i know the cons and pros i did the calculations and have all the BPOs and heavy water , but how does it actual work , activating my industry core looks great graphic wise but what i m i suppose to do after that

thank you
Artillery gives dignity to what otherwise would be a ordinary brawl .......old minmatar wisdom
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#2 - 2012-10-23 08:08:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
The Operation of a Rorquals' Industrial Core
How to use the industrial Core on a Rorqual
question to rorqual and indutrial core

Don't take this fit out of a force field. You'll want additional modules, e.g. cloak, probe launcher + probes, travel fit, (ECM) drones, clone vat, cyno + ozone, etc., and I recommend carrying at least a small tower with you with a few days of fuel.

[Rorqual, Booster (Needs EE-602)]
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

Command Processor I
Command Processor I
Dread Guristas EM Ward Field
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
100MN MicroWarpdrive II
Capital Shield Booster I

Industrial Core I
Armored Warfare Link - Passive Defense II
Siege Warfare Link - Shield Harmonizing II
Mining Foreman Link - Harvester Capacitor Efficiency II
Mining Foreman Link - Mining Laser Field Enhancement II
Mining Foreman Link - Laser Optimization II

Large Cargohold Optimization I
Large Cargohold Optimization I
Large Cargohold Optimization I
silentalleycat
Sebiestor Tribe
#3 - 2012-10-23 08:24:39 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
The Operation of a Rorquals' Industrial Core
How to use the industrial Core on a Rorqual
question to rorqual and indutrial core

[Rorqual, Booster (Needs EE-602)]
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

Command Processor I
Command Processor I
Dread Guristas EM Ward Field
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
100MN MicroWarpdrive II
Capital Shield Booster I

Industrial Core I
Armored Warfare Link - Passive Defense II
Siege Warfare Link - Shield Harmonizing II
Mining Foreman Link - Harvester Capacitor Efficiency II
Mining Foreman Link - Mining Laser Field Enhancement II
Mining Foreman Link - Laser Optimization II

Large Cargohold Optimization I
Large Cargohold Optimization I
Large Cargohold Optimization I

exactly what i was looking for no wonder i couldn't find it your original post is 5 yearsd old
anyway +1 internets for you good sir
Artillery gives dignity to what otherwise would be a ordinary brawl .......old minmatar wisdom
WilliamMays
Stuffs Inc.
#4 - 2012-10-24 09:40:22 UTC
splurge a little on t2 cargo rigs, you'll thank yourself later when doing lots of compression jobs

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#5 - 2012-10-24 17:13:17 UTC
WilliamMays wrote:
splurge a little on t2 cargo rigs, you'll thank yourself later when doing lots of compression jobs

I chose not to, as I never needed to compress that much (the Rorqual can compress a LOT), and for two other reasons:

1. I could replace the cargo rigs with CCC for travel when necessary (rare).

2. There is a bug with the Rorqual where sometimes the lines don't appear, and repackaging the ship fixes it (sometimes less extreme measures like re-boarding is all it takes though), or you can file a petition.
Styth spiting
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-10-24 17:31:02 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
WilliamMays wrote:
splurge a little on t2 cargo rigs, you'll thank yourself later when doing lots of compression jobs

I chose not to, as I never needed to compress that much (the Rorqual can compress a LOT), and for two other reasons:

1. I could replace the cargo rigs with CCC for travel when necessary (rare).

2. There is a bug with the Rorqual where sometimes the lines don't appear, and repackaging the ship fixes it (sometimes less extreme measures like re-boarding is all it takes though), or you can file a petition.


A Rorqual works well as a ghetto JF (for lowsec/null transporting) , so if you're going to have alot of items to move around but cannot fly a JF / carrier, etc going with T2 cargohold opt's might be a good idea.
Ditra Vorthran
Caldari Imports and Exports
#7 - 2012-10-25 20:52:23 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
2. There is a bug with the Rorqual where sometimes the lines don't appear, and repackaging the ship fixes it (sometimes less extreme measures like re-boarding is all it takes though), or you can file a petition.


You just need to wait some time. The lines reappear within one cycle of of your industrial core.

"Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#8 - 2012-10-25 22:48:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Ditra Vorthran wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
2. There is a bug with the Rorqual where sometimes the lines don't appear, and repackaging the ship fixes it (sometimes less extreme measures like re-boarding is all it takes though), or you can file a petition.

You just need to wait some time. The lines reappear within one cycle of of your industrial core.

When this bug hits, one can wait as many cycles as you want. The compression lines don't show on S&I, so jobs cannot be delivered nor submitted. Re-boarding sometimes works. Logout and login sometimes works. Docking and undocking sometimes works.

But every once in a while nothing works, and you have to petition a GM, who will repackage the Rorqual for you so you don't lose the rigs. Or if you are impatient, you can just do it yourself and buy new rigs.

This is a known bug that has been around as long as the Rorqual. CCP did patch the Rorqual lines in Inferno, but this bug still hits.

The bug you were probably thinking of was much more benign, and recently patched. It does not address missing lines, just job status.
Patch Notes for Inferno wrote:
When using quick running compression jobs from a Rorqual, the completed job would sometimes not show up for 5 minutes in the Science & Industry window. It will now show up within one minute at most.

That's one I had reported twice (as well as others have reported I'm sure).

107803 Rorqual compression line status wrong in Installations Attached to a defect 0 2011.02.16
23:13
96181 Rorqual jobs under 1 minute don´t show line as in-use Attached to a defect 0 2010.05.30
01:58

Only took 2 years for that one to get patched, Inferno: Tuesday, May 22, 2012.
marly cortez
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-11-12 02:04:18 UTC
Which begs the question regarding the jobs line on the Roqual,

Why is it not possible to input from say the 'Members' hangar of a large assembly array and output the completed compressed product to the Roquals ORE bay, the options for choosing a installation are there along with the options for the hangars yet try as one might your stuck with minute amounts of ore for input via the cargo hold which of course must contain everything else.

Surely if your on POS set up for mining you would have installed a large assembly array for the very purpose of having sufficient storage room for mining operations, A fleet of barges can grind out a lot of Ore in a short space of time as we know, the problem has always been compression and the lack of flexibility in that process.

I for one would like to see changes to this Bottlekneck in production if possible with the ability for the Roqual to pull from any in range source hangar and output again to any hangar in range selected from the blueprint.

I would also like to see the Roqual fitted with a dedicated bay for H/W.

Changes of this nature would produce a true mobile ore compression installation, otherwise a great addition to EVE but purpose poorly thought through, observation of the use Players put this vessel too in game would have told CCP that it's normal location is just that, a POS add-on when used in it's intended role.

Give it some thought please.

Humanity is the thin veneer that remains after you remove the baffled chimp.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#10 - 2012-11-12 02:14:44 UTC
marly cortez wrote:
Which begs the question regarding the jobs line on the Roqual,

Why is it not possible to input from say the 'Members' hangar of a large assembly array and output the completed compressed product to the Roquals ORE bay, the options for choosing a installation are there along with the options for the hangars yet try as one might your stuck with minute amounts of ore for input via the cargo hold which of course must contain everything else.

Because currently materials must always be at the location of the assembly line.
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#11 - 2012-11-12 03:35:13 UTC
Styth spiting wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
WilliamMays wrote:
splurge a little on t2 cargo rigs, you'll thank yourself later when doing lots of compression jobs

I chose not to, as I never needed to compress that much (the Rorqual can compress a LOT), and for two other reasons:

1. I could replace the cargo rigs with CCC for travel when necessary (rare).

2. There is a bug with the Rorqual where sometimes the lines don't appear, and repackaging the ship fixes it (sometimes less extreme measures like re-boarding is all it takes though), or you can file a petition.


A Rorqual works well as a ghetto JF (for lowsec/null transporting) , so if you're going to have alot of items to move around but cannot fly a JF / carrier, etc going with T2 cargohold opt's might be a good idea.

I can fly a JF and carrier (and have both) and I almost always use the rorqual. I also recommend t2 rigs.

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