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Why the difference in monthly fees depending on where you live?

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Kapri Styles
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-10-22 19:16:21 UTC
Hello,

So far I am on a free account, but I just found out that if I choose continue playing I will have to pay more than other players simply because of where I live.

The monthly Pound Sterling and US dollar fees are about the same but the Euro fee is quite a bit higher. Is there a rational explantion for that?
ISD Athechu
ISD STAR
ISD Alliance
#2 - 2012-10-22 19:30:41 UTC
I'm going to guess it has to deal with the exchange rate. Your best bet is to file a petition for the billing department and ask a Billing GM about this, it's not something we can really answer here in the forums.

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Kapri Styles
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-10-22 19:37:33 UTC
Will do. Thanks for the quick reply.
ISD Athechu
ISD STAR
ISD Alliance
#4 - 2012-10-22 19:38:06 UTC
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28599

This should help also, it's a developers blog about the price differences.

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Jim Era
#5 - 2012-10-22 19:47:47 UTC
plex cost americans more so it balances out.

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Kapri Styles
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-10-22 19:56:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Kapri Styles
ISD Athechu wrote:
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28599

This should help also, it's a developers blog about the price differences.


Thanks for the link although it doesn't quite adress my question. I don't use dollars, euros or pound sterling. In order to play I have to change some money. Since I live in Europe I have to change to Euro which at 15 euro/month is quite a bit more expensive than the other two correncies.

Think about it thsi way. The monthly fees in euros and dollars are both 15. But the euro is worth more than the dollar.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-10-22 20:03:05 UTC
There is also a difference because the difference in levied taxes on different currency.

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Jim Era
#8 - 2012-10-22 20:06:38 UTC
I say stop complaining.
You have to pay that much because you live ______
deal with it or don't pay, or move.
Gas costs 4,94 here but in a different state it costs 3.94
But I just don't whine about it.

Wat™
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#9 - 2012-10-22 20:07:06 UTC
The simple answer is local taxes, in the case of Europe it's probably VAT. As you live in Europe can you not change your local currency into £ sterling as opposed to €?

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Kapri Styles
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-10-22 20:17:38 UTC
Jim Era wrote:
I say stop complaining.
You have to pay that much because you live ______
deal with it or don't pay, or move.
Gas costs 4,94 here but in a different state it costs 3.94
But I just don't whine about it.


I am neither complaining nor whining. I am simply asking. I was hoping for a more mature answer.
Jim Era
#11 - 2012-10-22 20:18:39 UTC
Kapri Styles wrote:


I am neither complaining nor whining. I am simply asking. I was hoping for a more mature answer.


If you seek legitimate answers, you must first ask legitimate questions.

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Kapri Styles
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-10-22 20:20:30 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
The simple answer is local taxes, in the case of Europe it's probably VAT. As you live in Europe can you not change your local currency into £ sterling as opposed to €?


In the real world yes, but CCP wants all European countries apart from the UK to pay using Euros (so they can make more money?). It picks that currency automatically.

Since it has no effect on gameplay or CCP where I live it is a bit difficult for me to understand.
Kapri Styles
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-10-22 20:21:17 UTC
Jim Era wrote:
Kapri Styles wrote:


I am neither complaining nor whining. I am simply asking. I was hoping for a more mature answer.


If you seek legitimate answers, you must first ask legitimate questions.


Asking why there is such a difference in monthly fees is a legitimate question.
funrollloops
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-10-23 02:40:23 UTC  |  Edited by: funrollloops
We Americans are an impoverished and fiercely capitalistic people. 15 euros could feed my entire village for a month, and still leave enough left over to fix up our chieftain's Escalade.
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#15 - 2012-10-23 02:57:19 UTC
Kapri Styles wrote:
ISD Athechu wrote:
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28599

This should help also, it's a developers blog about the price differences.


Thanks for the link although it doesn't quite adress my question. I don't use dollars, euros or pound sterling. In order to play I have to change some money. Since I live in Europe I have to change to Euro which at 15 euro/month is quite a bit more expensive than the other two correncies.

Think about it thsi way. The monthly fees in euros and dollars are both 15. But the euro is worth more than the dollar.


Actually, since I'm Swedish I have a similar issue.

If I pay directly to CCP I have to pay 15 Euro (due to taxes and joint legislation).

But I can buy GTC from the US (battleclinic, shattered crystal and others) and pay in USD, dodging the tax/VAT.

Technically I'm most likely breaking some laws (it's possible that I should pay VAT on the electronic service I bought from the US since it's actually performed within the EU/EEC area) but frankly I take a runner and hope that I'm not going to get an angry email from the taxman.

But really.

CCP are bound by law to pay VAT for services provided within the EEC framework.

Their solution is a bit heavy handed, but not really that unfair.

And if you don't like it, learn to overcome it.

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#16 - 2012-10-23 02:58:19 UTC
Jim Era wrote:
Kapri Styles wrote:


I am neither complaining nor whining. I am simply asking. I was hoping for a more mature answer.


If you seek legitimate answers, you must first ask legitimate questions.


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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-10-23 04:25:15 UTC
Kapri Styles wrote:
Hello,

So far I am on a free account, but I just found out that if I choose continue playing I will have to pay more than other players simply because of where I live.

The monthly Pound Sterling and US dollar fees are about the same but the Euro fee is quite a bit higher. Is there a rational explantion for that?


Exchange rates. The Euro isn't performing very well (frankly, it was never going to).

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Kapri Styles
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Caldari State
#18 - 2012-10-23 06:47:52 UTC
Lors Dornick wrote:
Kapri Styles wrote:
ISD Athechu wrote:
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28599

This should help also, it's a developers blog about the price differences.


Thanks for the link although it doesn't quite adress my question. I don't use dollars, euros or pound sterling. In order to play I have to change some money. Since I live in Europe I have to change to Euro which at 15 euro/month is quite a bit more expensive than the other two correncies.

Think about it thsi way. The monthly fees in euros and dollars are both 15. But the euro is worth more than the dollar.


Actually, since I'm Swedish I have a similar issue.

If I pay directly to CCP I have to pay 15 Euro (due to taxes and joint legislation).

But I can buy GTC from the US (battleclinic, shattered crystal and others) and pay in USD, dodging the tax/VAT.

Technically I'm most likely breaking some laws (it's possible that I should pay VAT on the electronic service I bought from the US since it's actually performed within the EU/EEC area) but frankly I take a runner and hope that I'm not going to get an angry email from the taxman.

But really.

CCP are bound by law to pay VAT for services provided within the EEC framework.

Their solution is a bit heavy handed, but not really that unfair.

And if you don't like it, learn to overcome it.



I see your point regarding VAT, but the VAT is different in, say, Sweden, Germany and Portugal. Therefore having one rate would seem a bit strange.
Kapri Styles
Perkone
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-10-23 06:50:38 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Kapri Styles wrote:
Hello,

So far I am on a free account, but I just found out that if I choose continue playing I will have to pay more than other players simply because of where I live.

The monthly Pound Sterling and US dollar fees are about the same but the Euro fee is quite a bit higher. Is there a rational explantion for that?


Exchange rates. The Euro isn't performing very well (frankly, it was never going to).


The exchange rate changes for the Euro and the Pound Sterling are roughly the same compared to the US Dollar over the last five years, so that it not true.
Boss Gay
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2012-10-23 06:59:37 UTC
Kapri Styles wrote:
ISD Athechu wrote:
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28599

This should help also, it's a developers blog about the price differences.


Thanks for the link although it doesn't quite adress my question. I don't use dollars, euros or pound sterling. In order to play I have to change some money. Since I live in Europe I have to change to Euro which at 15 euro/month is quite a bit more expensive than the other two correncies.

Think about it thsi way. The monthly fees in euros and dollars are both 15. But the euro is worth more than the dollar.


Buy game codes from america, shattered crystal is the place i use. Then you get american prices.
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