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Ovv Topik
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-10-21 18:21:38 UTC
So 1st thing I have to admit is : This happened in Rancer.
I know, I know. I should know better by now.

I’ve lost a few ships now in low sec, all of them leaving a gate that’s camped, and it’s taught me how to fit correctly to get away.

But this time I jumped in from the Hek end, and made it into warp to the Gate at the Jita end, and this fella ‘d1rtybird’ 1 shots me as I dropped out of warp!
To be honest I was seriously impressed. It must have been one hell of a fast lock. It looked like I was still in warp!

I know bubbles in nul can do that, but what was his technique, and whats the counter?

And 2 more Q’s.
Killboards: I want to know his ship and fit, but cant find it. Is there an official killboard that records all kills.

Incidentally, he lost a lot of kudos with me looking at the KB’s I did find. 100% kill efficiency, but 99% of the kills were noob ships, shuttles and pods. Big man!

And finally, How come he didn’t get my pod? It happened so quick and unexpectedly, it seemed like an age before the pod jumped. I was mashing the jump button, but it was a good 5 seconds. Is it just a game mechanic, that on the server I’d jumped but visually it took a while, what do you recon?

Cheers

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Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-10-21 18:48:34 UTC
I recently had the same lesson taught to me. Don't warp to 0. If the gate is camped you can bug out and pull up the map to find a way around
Keith Gavner
Nomura Industries
#3 - 2012-10-21 19:12:00 UTC
He was using a smartbombing ship. The smart bomb will shoot you around the gate and it will likely happen before you have landed on grid and thus you won't be able to do anything. This kind of gate camp is useless against anything bigger than a frigate or decently tanked. Yet, smart bombs will one shoot most frigates, shuttles and haulers.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-10-21 19:20:54 UTC
Ovv Topik wrote:
So 1st thing I have to admit is : This happened in Rancer.
I know, I know. I should know better by now.

I’ve lost a few ships now in low sec, all of them leaving a gate that’s camped, and it’s taught me how to fit correctly to get away.

But this time I jumped in from the Hek end, and made it into warp to the Gate at the Jita end, and this fella ‘d1rtybird’ 1 shots me as I dropped out of warp!
To be honest I was seriously impressed. It must have been one hell of a fast lock. It looked like I was still in warp!

I know bubbles in nul can do that, but what was his technique, and whats the counter?

And 2 more Q’s.
Killboards: I want to know his ship and fit, but cant find it. Is there an official killboard that records all kills.

Incidentally, he lost a lot of kudos with me looking at the KB’s I did find. 100% kill efficiency, but 99% of the kills were noob ships, shuttles and pods. Big man!

And finally, How come he didn’t get my pod? It happened so quick and unexpectedly, it seemed like an age before the pod jumped. I was mashing the jump button, but it was a good 5 seconds. Is it just a game mechanic, that on the server I’d jumped but visually it took a while, what do you recon?

Cheers


o/

You just met a smartbombing ship. They don't need lock, they only need you in range. All stuff in range of teh smartbomb takes damage, and with large smartbombs vs frigates / pods it's almost instant kill of both.

As for killboards:

You will only see a fit that he used that was shot down, as long as you survive nobody will know your fit from killboards.

The 2nd one, could just be game lag or the session timer (you get a session timer when your ship is destroyed, during that session timer you can't jump the gate).

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Braxus Deninard
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#5 - 2012-10-21 20:29:14 UTC
His killboard is here:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&view=kills&plt_id=507748&m=10&y=2012

As you can see, all he does is kill frigs/dessies on a gate by smartbombing.
Oraac Ensor
#6 - 2012-10-21 22:51:49 UTC
Smartbombing capsules in a Rokh?

That must be about as low as it gets in EVE.

How totally, utterly pathetic.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-10-21 23:12:30 UTC
Oraac Ensor wrote:
Smartbombing capsules in a Rokh?

That must be about as low as it gets in EVE.

How totally, utterly pathetic.


I agree with you Oraac, though the pilot will likely claim he is a "leet-PvP player" or a badass pirate.

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Moonlit Raid
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-10-22 02:45:35 UTC
Smartbomb rokh is daddy ship. Don't fly round low sec in a little ship :) noobs.

If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.

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unrollloops
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-10-22 03:15:40 UTC
If you want to keep traveling through hellsystems like Rancer, its best to set up some bookmarks a few hundred kilometers off the gates and learn to use d-scan.
Casirio
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-10-22 03:20:18 UTC
Rancer, that's what just happened.
Theangryhobo
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-10-22 03:45:46 UTC
unrollloops wrote:
If you want to keep traveling through hellsystems like Rancer, its best to set up some bookmarks a few hundred kilometers off the gates and learn to use d-scan.


This.

Otherwise, stop being dumb.

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Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#12 - 2012-10-22 03:54:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Piugattuk
Does this guy think he's Vin Diesel or what. Well guess I'll hold on that vacation to rancerBig smile
Tasage Tivuri
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-10-22 04:52:47 UTC
Ovv Topik wrote:

I know bubbles in nul can do that, but what was his technique, and whats the counter?

Maximize your ship's hit points and resistances, treat it as standard procedure if you want to survive beyond a one-shot.
Doddy
Excidium.
#14 - 2012-10-22 10:40:32 UTC
When you lose your ship you enter a session change and can't jump or dock for 10 seconds (last i checked, they change session time quite often), you are far safer to warp off (pods warp instantly) than sit and hammer jump. Also rancer always has smartbombers, don't go there.
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#15 - 2012-10-22 10:45:04 UTC
Tasage Tivuri wrote:
Ovv Topik wrote:

I know bubbles in nul can do that, but what was his technique, and whats the counter?

Maximize your ship's hit points and resistances, treat it as standard procedure if you want to survive beyond a one-shot.


Hmm, possibly a stupid question.

But isn't there also a connection between signature radius and the amount of damage you take from a smart bomb?

For instance, fitting a shield extender gives a better shield, but it also increases your signature radius.

Or is sig radius only an issue versus missiles?

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Moonlit Raid
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-10-22 15:27:34 UTC
Lors Dornick wrote:
Tasage Tivuri wrote:
Ovv Topik wrote:

I know bubbles in nul can do that, but what was his technique, and whats the counter?

Maximize your ship's hit points and resistances, treat it as standard procedure if you want to survive beyond a one-shot.


Hmm, possibly a stupid question.

But isn't there also a connection between signature radius and the amount of damage you take from a smart bomb?

For instance, fitting a shield extender gives a better shield, but it also increases your signature radius.

Or is sig radius only an issue versus missiles?

Sig radius isn't used in smartbomb calcs.

If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.

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Cameron Zero
Sebiestor Tribe
#17 - 2012-10-22 18:52:26 UTC
Guy is using named smartbombs (on at least a few of the KMs). It'd be one heck of a nice kill if you get him. ;)

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Rams Trough'put
White Knight's Production inc.
#18 - 2012-10-22 21:43:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Rams Trough'put
Wow thats some weak "sauce". There is at least 6 of them running together in Rokhs, all of them smart bombing.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14948860

What a bunch of "fornicating" sticks. They all look like some pieces of "work."

Thats a hell of a gate camp
Moonlit Raid
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-10-22 23:00:14 UTC
Rams Trough'put wrote:
Wow thats some weak "sauce". There is at least 6 of them running together in Rokhs, all of them smart bombing.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14948860

What a bunch of "fornicating" sticks. They all look like some pieces of "work."

Thats a hell of a gate camp

It's nothing short of awesome.

If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.

Please Note: Any advice given comes with the caveat that nothing will be suitable for every situation.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-10-23 04:26:50 UTC
Oraac Ensor wrote:
Smartbombing capsules in a Rokh?

That must be about as low as it gets in EVE.

How totally, utterly pathetic.


Then perhaps such people should not go to lowsec. Killing pods is funny Lol

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