Ships & Modules

It won't obsolete them. T1's won't have the resists, and will have worse reps, and the sort. Pretty sure you can't fit large/XL reps on the T1 versions, either.

It's just a cheaper, lower entry level version of the T2's.

scythe costs 4mill? something, that is roughly 25-30 scythes for a scimitar.
and while they rank worse who cares as they cost less and can warp in at 90k and rep better then a scimitar.

how is that balance CCP?
can you clear that up for all that have trained Logi level 5 pls.

I seriously doubt CCP plans to make t1 ships perform better than t2 ships when both are specialized for the same role.

heres the data from the coming expansion with fittings doable with the coming expansion




note the last part making them quite better.

The Scythe and Osprey look very delicious in EFT, but they won't outperform the shield logistic hulls. However they might be the first choice just because of the pricetag. The Exequror and Augoror are still very nice, but will never reach the performance a Guardian or Exequror can bring.

I think the main use of the Scythe and Osprey are probably bigger engagements and not smallscale. In smallscale you'd probably like to have that (slight) bonus you gain from a Scimitar, whereas in fleetfights the logi-numbers are often relatively low. Here newer players with less skillpoints will be able to bring support ships into battle which perform almost as good and at low cost.


But yeah there are insane possibilities for Ospreys, they can have roughly 30k EHP before bonuses with 33 Sensor strength and have an aligntime of 4.5 seconds. And with a medium cap in out of an osprey, you can run almost every capneedy ship you might ever want to have as support in your fleet. Tripple Neut MWD webbing Ashimmu with Heavy Pulses has +20 cap/s. You can go for 4x Medium Shield Repper and one Large Energy Transfer on your Ospreys, they will be neutimmune. You'd need a ******* Bhaalgorn for each of them to cap them out.

I don't care I can fly them all

So what's next pownmobile?

The new logi cruisers may have a few gimmicks that they can pull off. Like the damping/repping scythe listed above. However, if you plan to fit a tank to it, or have it stay on the battlefield for more than 30s, then the "special" fits aren't going to be viable. And the scimi has a nice, well entrenched place on the battlefield, because it is better than a tanked scythe/osprey, and it can actually stick around when threatened, unlike the lolfit above.

That being said, it may be worthwhile to switch to scythefleet for POS repping - and anything that makes THAT go faster can only be a plus...

-Arazel

I would like the point out that the T1 logi ships won't be able to fit large remote repairs unless they are willing to give up the ability to take any significant damage from... well... most anything.

So no... T2 logi can take comfort in knowing that they are not being replaced in any way.

But the tiercide has not yet reached t2 hulls

At the rate they are updating ships we can expect the revamped t1 hulls to perform very cost effectively for the next couple of months, until Fozzie and Yterbium gets to the t2 hulls.

So t2 is still better, if you don't think they are better enough just mothball your t2s and go fly some of the new ships for a while.

Depends on what you're doing, there are many roads towards the same goal in EVE.

For instance, a group consisting of 30-40 of low skill pilots in T1 ships like Slashers, Scythes, Stabbers and Canes can reliably take on more experienced Pilots in similar T1 ships or even a T1 + T2 configuration. But a group consisting of 6-10 high skill pilots with say Crows, a Rapier, Vagabonds and a couple of Scimitars could decimate them without even breaking a sweat because of their superior defenses through higher speeds, resistances and lower signature radiuses.