EVE General Discussion

So I was thinking that Faction fits like launchers need the skill reqs increased to at the very least the same as the Tech 2 variants.
Or bring tech two more into line with faction mods.

Look at say Cruise missile launchers you are looking at a month train to get into tech 2
you need no training to use the Caldari cruise missile launcher.

Now how does this play a factor in the game?
Well only really in incursions for the most part you could post a really shiny ship all factioned out and be have the DPS as the tech 2 fitted guy and you will get the fleet invite despite the better suited pilot.
I guess would be an example.

Or you take someone into your fleet you think is going to be able to pull their own weight and they really do not have the skills to be doing much dps so it just drags down everyone else.
I think those times when you see people get melted off grid despite the shiny fit and you asked ftw just happened?
This might be one of the reasons as the same rule applies to the shield / armor mods.

Just a thought just seems a bit out of whack if you ask me.
Seems like we all could benefit and get better fleet comps if we know for sure these people are skilled proper for these fleets.

Faction stuff trades ISK for skill requirements compared to T2 stuff
Imo it's a reasonable tradeoff.

I read this. Still not sure what your gripe is. And for some reason I feel like my IQ dropped a point for having read it.

T2 guns still do more damage than faction, even when loading the same ammo, when you take the spec skill into account.

So it's more likely that the fleet taking the guy with the super shiny ship with faction guns is just hoping to feed that cow a bit for the slaughter.

It used to be that T2 required level 5 in relevant skills. I still think that was better, actually rewarding specialization.

faction guns aren't actually better

T2 guns are superior to higher-meta guns in almost all cases except for officer guns, but this is only when both are using the same ammo (and high-meta guns can't use T2 ammo, so, heh)

Sorry you dropped to 86

Reread then re post . I swear
My point was that a better mod should require a bit more skill training then non at all.

The only people O really see having a problem with this would be the ones that I am talking about the people with the skills not to fit it proper anyways.
Something as good as faction should require some skill training is all i'm saying.

If that is not the case let me fly a NM without skilling up for it. I can't walk in and fit Faction large rail guns right off the bat so why isn't this something that should be taken care of?

Need I point out that it takes far less skill-training to get into a Nightmare (faction bs) than it does to get into a Paladin (t2 bs)?

Some faction stuff like hardeners, well, their entire point is that they have lesser requirements, other than that they are no better than T1. Speaking of guns, I don't feel that their advantages are worth the effort of getting them whatever the way you do that. For that matter, they do require more time to use, just not training time but online time to grind ISK or LP store components for them.