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I want to get off my ship - should I just quit now?

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Megos Adriano
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-10-17 01:10:57 UTC
There's other games for that.

And boom goes the dynamite.
Agent Akari
Absolute Order XVIII
Absolute Will
#22 - 2012-10-17 01:25:37 UTC
This whole walking on station thing is like making another huge game into eve online client, which would make it nearly double or triple in size. Not to mention how much work they need to do in developing stations and interactions npc and voice overs and more. Like SWTOR quality. Which costs like soo much developing funds.

Making the Dust game is 10 times cheaper for sure.
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-10-17 02:45:08 UTC
kosswomen Mckay wrote:
Has the original dream of Eve been sided off and hived off into a series of related but separate products like Dust?


Eve was never envisioned to be a full on sci-fi simulator.

That idea only came after it succeeded initial release.

The original genesis of Eve was born in the fact that a couple of guys couldn't grief people in other games as much as they wanted.



Your welcome.

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#24 - 2012-10-17 05:03:19 UTC
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
kosswomen Mckay wrote:
Has the original dream of Eve been sided off and hived off into a series of related but separate products like Dust?


Eve was never envisioned to be a full on sci-fi simulator.

That idea only came after it succeeded initial release.

The original genesis of Eve was born in the fact that a couple of guys couldn't grief people in other games as much as they wanted.



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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#25 - 2012-10-17 05:06:16 UTC
Gogela wrote:
ISD TYPE40 wrote:
With luck this should cheer you up a bit

It's all about dem Avatars

I know it certainly made me happy to read it.

Hmmm... I'll see your recent forum thread and raise you a DevBlog from 2006 that says pretty much the same thing.

The moral of the story is don't hold your breath on features CCP promises. You will surely suffocate. We waited six years to get a room and now they are talking like they're starting over.

EvE is what it is. I'm pretty sure even the Devs don't know when or if avatar play is actually ever going to happen.

Sorry to be a debbie downer but that's the truth.

That's not entirely accurate Gogela, if you think about it.

At that time they did not have the core tech in place, now they do.
At that time they did not have a working prototype, now they do.
At that time they didn't have a solid plan for what the game play would consist of, now they do.
At that time they didn't have a very clear picture of what their player base REALLY wanted to do with it, now they do.

A "lot" has changed since then, it's just that most of it is under the hood.

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Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-10-17 05:13:42 UTC
You DID notice that everyone (apart from you i guess) hated Incarna with considerable fury right?

I truly believe that WiS does not now, nor will it ever, have ANY beneficial part in what EVE is.
I would not be disappointed in the slightest if CCP never revisit the idea in any way shape or form.

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Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#27 - 2012-10-17 05:15:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
Actually, they did have a working prototype. They were showing it off in like, 2006. It had a CQ, station hallways, a room with your pod in, bars and exotic dangers with animations... They just dropped it, for some reason.

I really want WiS, I've always hated that it got put on hold. I love the changes we're getting now, and a lot of them have been long overdue, but I really want to WiS.

As for whether you should stick around? If that's all you want, I wouldn't bother. I'm lucky in that I love Eve, so I have forever to wait, but alot of people really wont want to stick around without seeing the changes we've been promised since 2006. If it comes to it you can always re-sub when more WiS is introduced. I never thought I would find myself telling someone to quit Eve.

Jack Miton wrote:
You DID notice that everyone (apart from you i guess) hated Incarna with considerable fury right?


That's just flat out wrong. Do some damn research. There's Even a thread in GD trying to be a poll, and CQ is winning 2-1. Sorry bud.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#28 - 2012-10-17 05:50:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Touval Lysander
Jack Miton wrote:
You DID notice that everyone (apart from you i guess) hated Incarna with considerable fury right?

I truly believe that WiS does not now, nor will it ever, have ANY beneficial part in what EVE is.
I would not be disappointed in the slightest if CCP never revisit the idea in any way shape or form.

This one has been trounced already.

Even then, Incarna, if done right, which I think it would have been (and should still be), would be an optional - and not entirely neccessary - part of Eve. Whether YOU care for it is not something you would ever need to worry about.

You can have both or either. As long as SiS isn't changed to accommodate WiS, where's the harm?

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#29 - 2012-10-17 06:08:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
Touval Lysander wrote:
You can have both or either. As long as SiS isn't changed to accommodate WiS, where's the harm?


it's a waste of dev time that CCP could be using to actually improve the game.

PS: if people have already forgotten the riots and horrible shitstorm that was Incarna, then i can't really discuss this with you.
I don't see how anyone with any kind of memory can agrue against it being flat out the most hated expansion ever.

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Velarra
#30 - 2012-10-17 06:17:31 UTC
Soon.

Perhaps even 18 months from now.
Taiwanistan
#31 - 2012-10-17 06:53:02 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
You DID notice that everyone (apart from you i guess) hated Incarna with considerable fury right?

I truly believe that WiS does not now, nor will it ever, have ANY beneficial part in what EVE is.
I would not be disappointed in the slightest if CCP never revisit the idea in any way shape or form.

This one has been trounced already.

Even then, Incarna, if done right, which I think it would have been (and should still be), would be an optional - and not entirely neccessary - part of Eve. Whether YOU care for it is not something you would ever need to worry about.

You can have both or either. As long as SiS isn't changed to accommodate WiS, where's the harm?

Because there is always something more worthwhile to fix than avatars.

TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#32 - 2012-10-17 09:07:02 UTC
I don't expect there will be any substantial EVE expansions (WiS gameplay included) before 2015 because next couple of years CCP will be busy trying to kickstart Dust. At best there will be common station halls without meaningful gameplay and they'll set your computer on fire due to overheating.
Ekscalybur
Templar Services Inc.
#33 - 2012-10-17 09:30:12 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
You wouldnt exactly walk out to meet your friends...youd be almost birthed from your pod, all covered in what id expect to be mostly your own urine, not to mention stark naked. Your probably want to take a shower first and get dressed, unless youre into the whole strutting around naked covered in your own filth thing.


I'm getting the impression that you think walking around naked soaked in your own filth is a bad thing.

Cobain did say to 'come as you are', before he performed fellatio on a shotgun.

nerf Veldspar!
Doddy
Excidium.
#34 - 2012-10-17 09:59:50 UTC
Dress up barbie online just wont die Sad
Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#35 - 2012-10-17 10:05:00 UTC
Gogela wrote:

The moral of the story is don't hold your breath on anyone's promises. You will surely suffocate..



FYP

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
pussnheels
Viziam
#36 - 2012-10-17 10:27:31 UTC
I would stick around, maybe take a break or something or try DUST when it comes out
I definitely believe in WIS sometime in the future and it will be awesome , spaceships will still be a priority tho
, for now i can wait till CCP gets it right

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#37 - 2012-10-17 11:08:34 UTC
kosswomen Mckay wrote:
It has been a long time since incarna was released. In that time Dust has been developed and the core Eve game has been improved upon slightly. And I mean slightly, we are not talking anything that has really added new content or changed the game in any major way, there have just been a series of nice new tweaks like better looking missiles, more intuitive inventory systems.

I was hoping that there would be some major changes in game by now. I still can not walk in a station. I can not fly my ship, I can not get off my ship and explore that deserted space station in my mission.

So what I want to know is should I just give up hope that these things will ever happen? Have the narrow minded complainers saying Eve is and should only ever be about point and click spaceship based interaction won the day forever? Has the original dream of Eve been sided off and hived off into a series of related but separate products like Dust?

Will we ever see the dream of flying your ship into dock then walking out to meet a friend for a beer and card game before getting involved in a shoot out in a lawless area of the station?

Please tell me now so I can put my energies into a game that still aspires to doing these things and does not just follow the narrow minded veiws of a few vocal people.

In short - Where is my walking in stations god damn it!


I started playing EVE just over 6 years ago. I wanted to be a bounty hunter.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Taiwanistan
#38 - 2012-10-17 11:59:11 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
Actually, they did have a working prototype. They were showing it off in like, 2006. It had a CQ, station hallways, a room with your pod in, bars and exotic dangers with animations... They just dropped it, for some reason.

I really want WiS, I've always hated that it got put on hold. I love the changes we're getting now, and a lot of them have been long overdue, but I really want to WiS.

As for whether you should stick around? If that's all you want, I wouldn't bother. I'm lucky in that I love Eve, so I have forever to wait, but alot of people really wont want to stick around without seeing the changes we've been promised since 2006. If it comes to it you can always re-sub when more WiS is introduced. I never thought I would find myself telling someone to quit Eve.



No they didn't have jack in 2006. They had a dated looking engine, exotic dancers not dangers and a bar for dudes to emote each other in, and then they scrapped it, because dudes emoting each other don't really make good gameplay. So now they are trying figure out what gameplay concepts are acceptable. Read the damn devblog again.

TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."
Ix Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2012-10-17 12:13:51 UTC
Yes, but my question is if we had stations and could have a drink, which bathroom would you use? I can't tell...........
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#40 - 2012-10-17 12:19:38 UTC
kosswomen Mckay wrote:
I can not fly my ship


I'd petition that


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