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Maybe fix the overview instead of working on clothing graphics?
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highonpop
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#21 - 2012-10-16 18:07:38 UTC
You guys actually use CQ?

I havn't used CQ since the day it came out and it took me 5 mintues to load the station every time i docked. I don't even show avatars in my chat windows to try and save space on my UI

FC, what do?
GreenSeed
#22 - 2012-10-16 18:08:22 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Confirming that 3D artists are UI bughunters.

this.

people, there are different devs doing different jobs. welcome to the division of labor. now move along please.
ShiftyMcFly's Second Cousin
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-10-16 18:11:22 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
I, too, totally want 3D model designers working on UI/networking stuff. I'm sure the results would be entertaining.


This.

Also: nice patch CCP, you made us discover another interesting Eve player not having a single idea what he's talking about Lol



I think you are talking about the majority of the poasters around here tbh.
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#24 - 2012-10-16 18:15:38 UTC
I'm sure CCP's art department are all most excellent UI coders in their spare time who will be sure to jump right on your well thought out and witty suggestion. Roll

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-10-16 18:55:06 UTC
highonpop wrote:
You guys actually use CQ?

I havn't used CQ since the day it came out and it took me 5 mintues to load the station every time i docked. I don't even show avatars in my chat windows to try and save space on my UI

It loaded for me just fine as well as for the vast majority of EVE players on day one and still works fine today for the players that use it. So if it works for me and works for them but not for you...then it begs the questions...what did YOU do wrong?

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Uwara
The Ares project
#26 - 2012-10-16 19:02:40 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
highonpop wrote:
You guys actually use CQ?

I havn't used CQ since the day it came out and it took me 5 mintues to load the station every time i docked. I don't even show avatars in my chat windows to try and save space on my UI

It loaded for me just fine as well as for the vast majority of EVE players on day one and still works fine today for the players that use it. So if it works for me and works for them but not for you...then it begs the questions...what did YOU do wrong?



I doubt its about what he did wrong. Station hangar loads in 1-2 sec, CQ is 10+ sec on the same PC.
You can walk down the hallway to sit on the sofa and get the mission, fit the ship, play market, check contracts, whatever and walk back to the pod to undock, wanna roleplay..ok.

Or you can just use icons and not move from the entrance.
And that renders CQ useless, loading time, walking time, increased CPU/GPU usage is pointless when you can do all those things already without using CQ in the first place. Unless people prefer Barbie & Ken dress-up in a spaceship game.

Won a G510 keyboard in AT-X on  21.07.2012. Still not delivered, CCP keeps quiet. Customer support needs a raise.
Anslo
Scope Works
#27 - 2012-10-16 19:03:32 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
*lol* Korinne posting, just to do the only thing she has left to do ...

Whine and *****, from the safety and boredom of the station she's sitting in.

Congratulations. ^_^


Says the NPC corp pub.

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Korinne
The Partisan Brigade
#28 - 2012-10-16 20:16:17 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Korinne wrote:
Eve is about internet spaceships, everything else is fluff.

False. Eve is about internet space simulations. That includes "fluff" like walking around in stations.


Negative, if that were the case, then you would just have the Sims in space. After all, technically that would be an internet space simulation; that or just a model of cosmic mechanics.
Korinne
The Partisan Brigade
#29 - 2012-10-16 20:24:52 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Korinne wrote:
Actually, as paying subscribers, it is our job to tell the devs their business. We are the end consumer, and if we feel the product that we pay for isn't up to scratch it is our responsibility to **** and moan about it. And for one, I agree that I'm sick of all this Dust/Incarna/NeX bullshit when there is other serious stuff in Eve that needs fixing. Eve is about internet spaceships, everything else is fluff.

Feedback from the customer affects what each team handles first, but one does not simply turn model designers into UI developers just because the UI developers have a bigger backlog of things to do.



Then perhaps they should hire more UI developers and lay off/get rid of clothing designers, that or hire more versatile people. Just because someone is a mechanic doesn't mean they don't know how to cook.
Anslo
Scope Works
#30 - 2012-10-16 20:30:32 UTC
Korinne wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Korinne wrote:
Eve is about internet spaceships, everything else is fluff.

False. Eve is about internet space simulations. That includes "fluff" like walking around in stations.


Negative, if that were the case, then you would just have the Sims in space. After all, technically that would be an internet space simulation; that or just a model of cosmic mechanics.


Also false. You fail to see the big picture. If you were a real life spacer, you would not be limited to a pod and looking at your ship in space while spinning it in station. You would go out on the station promenade, look at potential investments in said station, you'd leave your ship to survey planets in person for PI stuff. You'd jump into a shuttle to explore ruins of ancient Sleeper stations. You'd jump into a corridor of a POS or Outpost and join the shoot out against those who'd take your station, because they don't just fall and roll over by being shot at. Station personnel don't magically disappear. Hell, you'd even take a holiday and tour a city in Dodixie or chill on a beach in Intaki.

Sure, maybe this isn't what you personally would have in mind in the game, but that is what a science fiction universe would have. A true all encompassing science fiction opera brought to reality fulfilling the culmination of a generation's worth of sci-fi fans' fantasies.

So you can stay in your pod, you're welcome to. But many of us want that full and all encompassing Science Fiction universe to become fully immersed in.

Personally, I'd love to jump ship and screw around on a planet like Mass Effect's Illium, buying drugs, making trades, running a bar. Hell, even making a sky scrapper to rent out would be nice.

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Megos Adriano
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2012-10-16 21:55:29 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Korinne wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Korinne wrote:
Eve is about internet spaceships, everything else is fluff.

False. Eve is about internet space simulations. That includes "fluff" like walking around in stations.


Negative, if that were the case, then you would just have the Sims in space. After all, technically that would be an internet space simulation; that or just a model of cosmic mechanics.


Also false. You fail to see the big picture. If you were a real life spacer, you would not be limited to a pod and looking at your ship in space while spinning it in station. You would go out on the station promenade, look at potential investments in said station, you'd leave your ship to survey planets in person for PI stuff. You'd jump into a shuttle to explore ruins of ancient Sleeper stations. You'd jump into a corridor of a POS or Outpost and join the shoot out against those who'd take your station, because they don't just fall and roll over by being shot at. Station personnel don't magically disappear. Hell, you'd even take a holiday and tour a city in Dodixie or chill on a beach in Intaki.

Sure, maybe this isn't what you personally would have in mind in the game, but that is what a science fiction universe would have. A true all encompassing science fiction opera brought to reality fulfilling the culmination of a generation's worth of sci-fi fans' fantasies.

So you can stay in your pod, you're welcome to. But many of us want that full and all encompassing Science Fiction universe to become fully immersed in.

Personally, I'd love to jump ship and screw around on a planet like Mass Effect's Illium, buying drugs, making trades, running a bar. Hell, even making a sky scrapper to rent out would be nice.


You can always go play SWOR.

And boom goes the dynamite.
Marzuq
Scarlet Weather Rhapsody
#32 - 2012-10-16 23:38:17 UTC
WiS, Incarna, and NEX are all a steaming pile of crap that results from the heap of failures that CCP spent years on yet delivered crap results.

Incarna is the Duke Nukem Forever of Eve online, so much time spent for an absolute failure and disappointment.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#33 - 2012-10-17 00:43:11 UTC
Megos Adriano wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Korinne wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Korinne wrote:
Eve is about internet spaceships, everything else is fluff.

False. Eve is about internet space simulations. That includes "fluff" like walking around in stations.


Negative, if that were the case, then you would just have the Sims in space. After all, technically that would be an internet space simulation; that or just a model of cosmic mechanics.


Also false. You fail to see the big picture. If you were a real life spacer, you would not be limited to a pod and looking at your ship in space while spinning it in station. You would go out on the station promenade, look at potential investments in said station, you'd leave your ship to survey planets in person for PI stuff. You'd jump into a shuttle to explore ruins of ancient Sleeper stations. You'd jump into a corridor of a POS or Outpost and join the shoot out against those who'd take your station, because they don't just fall and roll over by being shot at. Station personnel don't magically disappear. Hell, you'd even take a holiday and tour a city in Dodixie or chill on a beach in Intaki.

Sure, maybe this isn't what you personally would have in mind in the game, but that is what a science fiction universe would have. A true all encompassing science fiction opera brought to reality fulfilling the culmination of a generation's worth of sci-fi fans' fantasies.

So you can stay in your pod, you're welcome to. But many of us want that full and all encompassing Science Fiction universe to become fully immersed in.

Personally, I'd love to jump ship and screw around on a planet like Mass Effect's Illium, buying drugs, making trades, running a bar. Hell, even making a sky scrapper to rent out would be nice.


You can always go play SWOR.


Ahh yes, the very popular StarWars games that usually combine Avatar based game play and space ship game play successfully.

Oh wait, you were trying to make some point about why EvE couldn't or shouldn't develop a well rounded game experience like that weren't you....

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Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#34 - 2012-10-17 01:07:50 UTC
Korinne wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Korinne wrote:
Eve is about internet spaceships, everything else is fluff.

False. Eve is about internet space simulations. That includes "fluff" like walking around in stations.


Negative, if that were the case, then you would just have the Sims in space. After all, technically that would be an internet space simulation; that or just a model of cosmic mechanics.

That would be true if CCP's intent is to have WiS OR SiS

I think the operative word is AND....

And the bit soooooo often overlooked - We can have both and we can use either or neither.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Anslo
Scope Works
#35 - 2012-10-17 12:30:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Anslo
Megos Adriano wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Korinne wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Korinne wrote:
Eve is about internet spaceships, everything else is fluff.

False. Eve is about internet space simulations. That includes "fluff" like walking around in stations.


Negative, if that were the case, then you would just have the Sims in space. After all, technically that would be an internet space simulation; that or just a model of cosmic mechanics.


Also false. You fail to see the big picture. If you were a real life spacer, you would not be limited to a pod and looking at your ship in space while spinning it in station. You would go out on the station promenade, look at potential investments in said station, you'd leave your ship to survey planets in person for PI stuff. You'd jump into a shuttle to explore ruins of ancient Sleeper stations. You'd jump into a corridor of a POS or Outpost and join the shoot out against those who'd take your station, because they don't just fall and roll over by being shot at. Station personnel don't magically disappear. Hell, you'd even take a holiday and tour a city in Dodixie or chill on a beach in Intaki.

Sure, maybe this isn't what you personally would have in mind in the game, but that is what a science fiction universe would have. A true all encompassing science fiction opera brought to reality fulfilling the culmination of a generation's worth of sci-fi fans' fantasies.

So you can stay in your pod, you're welcome to. But many of us want that full and all encompassing Science Fiction universe to become fully immersed in.

Personally, I'd love to jump ship and screw around on a planet like Mass Effect's Illium, buying drugs, making trades, running a bar. Hell, even making a sky scrapper to rent out would be nice.


You can always go play SWOR.


No. I don't like the Star Wars Universe. I like the EVE Universe, as do all of us. Therefore, I'd like to walk around a station in Cistuvert, not Coruscant. You bitter vets keep telling people to go play another game if we want something like this. The reality is your bitterness is what's keeping this game from becoming so much more and thriving so much more.

You are indeed the cancer killing Eve.
Edit: And I hate you for it. You and your ilk of bitter vets.

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Signal11th
#36 - 2012-10-17 12:56:54 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
Actus Reyus wrote:
So I saw the new patch today, how about instead of working on things like graphics for the in station environment that literally nobody uses


How about stfu, and people do use it.


Oh dear and you admitted it as well..Cry

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Ravnik
Infinate Horizon
#37 - 2012-10-17 13:03:30 UTC
Anslo wrote:

Edit: And I hate you for it. You and your ilk of bitter vets.


If it wasnt for the better vets you wouldnt be here sunny jim *hits you with my walking stick*

The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly..........
Taiwanistan
#38 - 2012-10-17 13:04:43 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Korinne wrote:
Eve is about internet spaceships, everything else is fluff.

False. Eve is about internet space simulations. That includes "fluff" like walking around in stations.

You go girl, fluff it up.

TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#39 - 2012-10-17 13:15:38 UTC
confirming 'fluff' is vital
Anslo
Scope Works
#40 - 2012-10-17 13:21:02 UTC
Ravnik wrote:
Anslo wrote:

Edit: And I hate you for it. You and your ilk of bitter vets.


If it wasnt for the better vets you wouldnt be here sunny jim *hits you with my walking stick*


Don't care. You and your kind are now a detriment. Adapt or gb2 WoT

Taiwanistan wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Korinne wrote:
Eve is about internet spaceships, everything else is fluff.

False. Eve is about internet space simulations. That includes "fluff" like walking around in stations.

You go girl, fluff it up.


That same "fluff" of lore and immersion is what drew many people to this game in the early years of Eve that allowed CCP to grow and thrive and build up the game. Your passive aggressive attempt at an insult is laughable at best. Please biomass.

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