EVE General Discussion

But the nerfing doesn't only effect drakes, it effects 80% of a races ships whether they were "overpowered" or not, mostly not. Next they should nerf the Gallente out of existence me thinks, that'll be a solid next "iteration". There will always be something overpowered, god help that race, us all.

EDIT: Maybe 50%, so now it's perfectly ok, right?

They already have done that, mostly why I don't care what happens to your drakes and canes.

^ The missile terms are too fun for me to type.

^ I only see that when pvp is involved, and it is as bad as you say it is.

With you complaining about medium guns getting nerfed, that is what you are probably complaining about. The pvp side of it. But with pvp being borked, don't know what to say to you.

You mean for missiles? I have minimal missile skills, hardly touch them. I use the same weapons as Gallante, hybrids, some various racial ships, this character being 2m SP and counting then going into fw soon, around winter patch. A second alt doing the same, and with no missile skills either. I just don't want to see any guns or missiles nerfed, but just individual ship balancing regarding all ships.

Defenders are just an intrinsically bad idea and should be deleted so people can stop getting upset about them.

If we need a specifc anti-missile EW (and we do), then add the revelant scripts to tracking disrupters and job done.

While we're about it, move Target Painters to being highslot mods, since they're effectively an offensive mod, plus they'll actually be useful there. That'll be a big enough rebuff for missiles to make up for the TD scipts.

There. Job done. Malc fixed it and everyone can break for beer.

500 man drake fleet says hello.

I already know why, or the lack of why, on my main. The underpowered ships are getting hit just the same. To balance all those out, if they bother, is more work than just fixing the ship or two that are overpowered. So I still see no difference between buffing many ships or nerfing many ships. They say buffing ships is problematic, yet the same holds true for nerfing many ships, especially the ones that were never overpowered to start with. This is by far the oddest developers I've ever seen working on a game. I'll have what they're having *hic*

1 guy comes into CCP's studio, changes Drake coding to reduce damage or whatnot, patch goes out, end of problem.
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50 developers pushing overtime around the clock for weeks on end just trying to figure out how to change missiles and then fix every ship it broke. Then testing, going back for adjustments, going back to testing, releasing to live, finding that it had horrible effects in actual play then trying to fix it all again, patch after patch. Meanwhile other broken aspects of the game are pushed to the back burner again.

I'm speaking of general cruiser class there arounds, not the entire fleet of course.

Then we're talking about 9 out of 16 (or out of 20, if we count all the medium-sized ships), one of which can be fit either way so it's really more like 8.5 out of 16… or about half. So still nowhere near the 80% you want it to be.

Face it: Caldari is a missile/hybrid race. One weapon system will never in any way affect significantly more than 50% of the ships of a given size, and there are four sizes. In addition, every ship that is affected will have a second choice in weapons. In fact, the fact that a ship that is meant to be able to fit all four caldari weapon systems for its size is only ever fitted with one of them tells you a lot about why HMLs are on the balancing chopping-block.

wtf? lol. Hey yeah, I want 100% of Caldari ships nerfed, right naow!...duh.

ah bs. If you play this game rather than forum troll, the ships that bonus missiles don't bonus hybrid at the same time. In fact they don't even slot them! There is no reason to nerf an entire line of weapons to adjust one or two ships. It don't matter if it's 30%, 50% or 80%, not when one ship is the supposed offender. This seems like a complete run around or excuse from being able to fix the defender missile. For some, it's about a logical fix without bad broken work-arounds. To others, it's the joyful warm feeling of other players getting blanket nerfed and that alone.