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Please SAVE EVE !!!
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Atomyc'al
BACKFIRE Squad
#1 - 2012-10-12 11:24:24 UTC
Story:
Hello, I am an old eve player, I have 3 accounts... and less and less time to play due to work. I do love the game, I have never paid with real money because the work that i do hardly brings enough money to survive / pay bills.

Problem:
PLEX prices went mad.

1'st possibility:
PLEX prices remain the same. CCP gains lots of $ in a short time. Game gets frustrating; less and less appealing to others like me. Players start quitting EVE. Only those with too much time and too much money remain in game. At one point they will not be enough to populate the huge world of New Eden. Game will become less appealing to them too.
(don't have actual statistics but I have noticed that the number of players has already decreased from what I have been used to)

2'nd possibility:
CCP develops a strategy to counteract 1'st possibility. Makes the game fun to play again. Rekindles the spark that makes us log in every time. The first step to do so would be to drop the PLEX prices. But they shouldn't stop there. The game still needs improvements if it is to survive a market with games like World of Tanks and what not...


Conclusion.
I realy hope something will be done, as I will soon run out of ISK and time, and I will probably join my other friends (that have already left the world of EVE for the one in WoT).
This is MY view of things. Don't know if it's from the right angle or not, but i do feel that others are exactly in my situation.

PLEASE SAVE EVE.
Nanatoa
#2 - 2012-10-12 11:26:23 UTC
3rd possibility: Should've bought a bunch of PLEX when they were low, so you wouldn't have to care for price movements for the next few years.

"Stay the course, we have done this many times before." - (CCP) Hilmar, June 2011
Kehro Urgus
Dark Nebula Academy
O X I D E
#3 - 2012-10-12 11:26:24 UTC
Eve needs communism.

Yeeee! 
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#4 - 2012-10-12 11:27:52 UTC
Oh noes, Eve is dying!

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Atomyc'al
BACKFIRE Squad
#5 - 2012-10-12 11:29:33 UTC
3'rd possibility is not available anymore. But boy I miss the days when i was searching all over for a PLEX at 320 when they were 330, and that was too high for me. Cry
Ronix Aideron
Zymurgy Corp.
#6 - 2012-10-12 11:30:28 UTC
I am stepping way out on a limb with this comment, but here is my two cents.

Why would CCP want to taylor toward players that do not spend real money? You are basically asking for market manipulation so you can continue to play for free. If you can't afford PLEX with ISK then save up ISK or focus on your priorities in real life. As a new player $10 a month for EVE is about the least expensive entertainment I have access to.

Start the day off slow and taper off from there.

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Ronix_Aideron
Renton Brax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-10-12 11:34:05 UTC
Yes lets make PLEX cheaper so we can all continue to play for free, I mean, like, CCP doesn't have overheads right? EVE is a charity right?
Ignatius Leopardi
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-10-12 11:35:51 UTC
I am relatively new to EVE and have seen several threads like this, and so naturally I am curious.

Some of the general themes I've seen about the economy, include:


  • PLEX prices are too high


  • ISK is too easy to get


  • Ship prices are too high


(and of course the no-economic litany, High Sec=bad, Carebears=limp-wristed pond scum., yadda, yadda, yadda)

Has there been a broad evaluation of the IG economy, and if so, what does it look like? If ISK is easy to get, and I guess I'd have to agree that at this early stage it is skills and not ISK that keeps me from flying what I'd like, then what difference does it make that costs have gone up?

These are honest questions, and I'd be glad to learn folks' thoughts on them.
Zagdul
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-10-12 11:37:44 UTC
Renton Brax wrote:
Yes lets make PLEX cheaper so we can all continue to play for free, I mean, like, CCP doesn't have overheads right? EVE is a charity right?

Someone paid real money to put that PLEX on the market. CCP got paid.

Dual Pane idea: Click!

CCP Please Implement
Atomyc'al
BACKFIRE Squad
#10 - 2012-10-12 11:40:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Atomyc'al
Ronix Aideron wrote:
I am stepping way out on a limb with this comment, but here is my two cents.

Why would CCP want to taylor toward players that do not spend real money? You are basically asking for market manipulation so you can continue to play for free. If you can't afford PLEX with ISK then save up ISK or focus on your priorities in real life. As a new player $10 a month for EVE is about the least expensive entertainment I have access to.



Why would CCP help players that don't spend money? Because they are the ones you go out and want to kill. Because they are working hard for their isk so they can pay their PLEX, well... mainly because THEY ARE PLAYING. If all those that won't pay, quit... what will you do when you search 3-4 low-sec's and you find no one to kill ?
BobFenner
Black Hole Runners
#11 - 2012-10-12 11:43:01 UTC
OK. If ISK is easy to get how can PLEX'es be too expensive? Blink
My missus thinks of EvE as 'the other woman'. :)
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#12 - 2012-10-12 11:43:07 UTC
Well the whole game is about causing as much destruction as possible. If there were some way to destroy the whole of EvE, I'd probably find that quite exciting. I fully support any movement that leads to the absolute death of EvE. Hopefully it will be a very bloody and glorious death, not a boring 'old age, natural causes' death like other MMOs.

Oh god.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#13 - 2012-10-12 11:44:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Schmata Bastanold
Ignatius Leopardi wrote:

Has there been a broad evaluation of the IG economy, and if so, what does it look like? If ISK is easy to get, and I guess I'd have to agree that at this early stage it is skills and not ISK that keeps me from flying what I'd like, then what difference does it make that costs have gone up?

These are honest questions, and I'd be glad to learn folks' thoughts on them.


All those threads are from same breed as threads about "solo pvp is dead", "I got ganked and will unsub all my 188 accounts", etc. Basically much noise from least qualified to have a say about anything.

PLEX price didn't change, year ago I paid 19.95 euro for it, and it still costs same today. Of course you can get more pixels for it right now but RL price didn't change. And anybody who goes postal about how many pixels he has to shoot with other pixels to afford having more pixels... Well, it is a game - you should stop play it when you have no fun out of it.

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#14 - 2012-10-12 11:44:52 UTC
CCP don't control the market price of plex.
Atomyc'al
BACKFIRE Squad
#15 - 2012-10-12 11:46:20 UTC
BobFenner wrote:
OK. If ISK is easy to get how can PLEX'es be too expensive? Blink


he is probably referring to the fact that people in highly organised corporations, make tons of isk in areas where a beginner or a single player won't stand a chance.
Myrkala
Royal Robot Ponies
#16 - 2012-10-12 11:46:29 UTC
BobFenner wrote:
OK. If ISK is easy to get how can PLEX'es be too expensive? Blink



Its because the numbers are higher than they used to be! Roll
Aziesta
Binal Extensions
Xagenic Freymvork
#17 - 2012-10-12 11:50:58 UTC
Atomyc'al wrote:
Hello, I am an old eve player, I have 3 accounts... and less and less time to play due to work. I do love the game, I have never paid with real money because the work that i do hardly brings enough money to survive / pay bills.

Option 3: You downgrade to the number of accounts you can afford. Roll
Atomyc'al
BACKFIRE Squad
#18 - 2012-10-12 11:55:00 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
CCP don't control the market price of plex.


oh but they do, see:

-plex offers
-account offers (where you pay 3 plexes and get 90 days for free on a new account, The power of two)
-major tournaments which require 20+ PLEXes to enter.
pussnheels
Viziam
#19 - 2012-10-12 12:00:51 UTC
Ronix Aideron wrote:
I am stepping way out on a limb with this comment, but here is my two cents.

Why would CCP want to taylor toward players that do not spend real money? You are basically asking for market manipulation so you can continue to play for free. If you can't afford PLEX with ISK then save up ISK or focus on your priorities in real life. As a new player $10 a month for EVE is about the least expensive entertainment I have access to.


doesn't matter , someone else paid for that month of gametime with real money ,

but yes plex prices are completely out of control , and i really feel sorry for the people who use them to extend their gametime

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
Ronix Aideron
Zymurgy Corp.
#20 - 2012-10-12 12:01:53 UTC
Atomyc'al wrote:

Why would CCP help players that don't spend money? Because they are the ones you go out and want to kill. Because they are working hard for their isk so they can pay their PLEX, well... mainly because THEY ARE PLAYING. If all those that won't pay, quit... what will you do when you search 3-4 low-sec's and you find no one to kill ?


This logic makes no sense. All players of EVE play the game not just the people who can afford to buy PLEX via ISK.

I am not advocating having all of the players within EVE quit. I was just saying that your options seem to suggest that CCP should manipulate the market so it is easier to purchase PLEX with ISK. There are plenty of free MMO's that will allow you to play without having to subscribe or put money into the game.

Start the day off slow and taper off from there.

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Ronix_Aideron
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