EVE General Discussion

they should flip hybrid/ projectile weapon stats so it makes sense
minmitar would have either zomg range, or zomg up close damage, which goes well with their weapon philosophy of fast and high damage.

gallente ( now with the stats of projectiles) would have the better range and different ammo types.
caldari would be able to have their range and alpha as they would have the new arty, or they could fly like they fly blaster boats now ( but with moar range and a bit less dps)

this would also make a bit more sense, as the amarr EW is tracking disrupters and it would effect minmitar a lot more, right now it is weird that all minmitar ships seem to counter amarr ships, i mean t2 minni ships have HUGE resist against EM thermal.

I too compare a combat oriented command ship to a gang link command ship in terms of DPS and expect even damage output/performance.



:getout:



Minmatar weapon systems are fine, Artillery does indeed have 'zomg range' and Autocannons do indeed have 'zomg up close damage' and a very, very respectable rate of fire.



One can only imagine, with so much based on 'game lore' why exactly the Minmatar T2 ships have a high resist profile against EM/Thermal, when their natural enemy (Amarr) deal exclusively EM/Thermal damage. They do however have a rather high Kinetic hole, but I'm sure that has nothing to do with the Gallente Federations primary weapon system (i.e. Blasters) doing primarily Kinetic damage, I mean who shoots their own allies, right?



The whole premise behind this thread is uninformed, unimaginative and stupid.

Having spent quite sometime getting my rail gun skills up, i find that idea sucks butt. I like my rail guns, and they work fine for me. Maybe you should stick to your day job, man I hope it is not game developer.

Actually, Gallente get a different weapon system known as drones.

Meanwhile, Caldari get a different weapon system known as missiles.

Those two groups don't really overlap, so this is not broken and your point is really quite moot.

Fact: Drone Damage Augmenters are a waste on nearly every Caldari boat.

Fact: Ballistic Control Systems are a waste on nearly every Gallente boat.

As I said, it's not broken.

Yes because I can't use a large drone bay like gallente, and I can surely not use 5drones like gallente

Ho wait ...



Indeed, for things to be interesting there must always be tools for fools and tools for smart. Pick your side, fly ASB...ho wait !



Seems gilas and rattlesnakes disagree with you, they can use both, and they're even lolpownzor shield fitted olol asb

But you're right in the end, I'm tired of fighting megathrons fleets, tired of deimos fleets, burn out of drones fleets !!

I'd like to fly drakes, zealots, canes, lokis, guardians, scimis, maelstroms, rokhs (hey! lolblaster ship !!) and that kind of funky stuff.

Railguns ARE particle accelerators, and blasters ARE gauss guns. Also, I'm not really sure what you're asking for. Basically, you pay a bit more powergrid and CPU in order to increase your range while decreasing your tracking and DPS. It's typical of all turrets in EVE, it's the standard trade-off. Railgun DPS and powergrid cost was already fixed. I'm still a little bitter about the pathetic powergrid of the Rokh and the Hyperion, but that's not about the guns. They are tier 3 battleships and they have tier 2 powergrid (if that).

I don't see any reason to split the two. You'd just end up creating 4 weapons of which every module would have a nearly identical twin. Maybe a better idea would be to make a third mid-range hybrid simply because railguns and blasters have a huge variance in range. But I wouldn't do it because it is one of the critical weaknesses of hybrids. Autocannons do range flexibility fairly well, while pulse lasers have good tracking for their nearly medium range and beam laser range is highly affected by ammo type. The advantage to hybrids is that railguns do not too far under pulse laser dps with a more widely effective damage type, less capacitor cost, and much longer range. Blasters, on the other hand, have slightly better gross tracking than autocannons and much higher DPS. They are difficult to get into range, but worth it when you do.

And I see no reason why one should expect the Caldari to have created their own hybrids. Perhaps hybrid weapons technology is very old, and neither the Caldari nor the Gallente have made any significant advances to the technology itself since they diverged.

I see what Op is saying... It would be like two races shared lasers, but one race specialized in pulse lasers and the other beam lasers.

Or autocannons and arty

what if one race specialized in long range missles and another short range missiles?

Hybrids are hard to balance for that reason.

what irks me is that CCP tends to think that they cant make med rails any good because then caldari would have OP long range blaster platforms. Why they cant split the bonuses to rail guns and blasters is beyond me

Your entire argument is invalid.
Caldari use missiles, gallente use hybrids.
Hybrids are a secondary system for caldari, much like drones are for gallente.

I thought people liked one percenting.

Also, :getout: is a valid argument.

To be fair: Minmatar also has missile splits and Amarr has to deal with ******** drones on a few hulls. The weapons mix isn't as cut and dry as you think.