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This is an important point, and it's good that you emphasize it. I would go further and say that there are many substates of the free-floating brackets. For example:

* the basic bracket

* ships that I am locking

* ships that are locked

* ships that are selected in the overview

* ships that are on my watchlist

* ships that are locking me

* ships that have locked me

* ships that are doing good things to me

* ships that are doing bad things to me

Ideally, there should be several variants of the free-floating brackets, with different levels of detail (including associated info boxes, etc) -- and players should be able to configure what info is provided for each state (subject to the limitations of what info the client actually has, of course). There's no one-size-fits-all for this, and in particular, different types of fights mean different kinds of settings.

Couple of random things:

WRT those people who prefer the straight bar damage indicators, I empathise. My original thought when CSM got a preview of this blog was a stack of arcs, preserving that metaphor. But reading through this thread, and seeing the various prototypes people are coming up with, I've come to the conclusion that it has the problem of making the bracket non-symmetrical (ie: it does not easily fit into a square box, or the circular subset of it).

So I'm not so much against the circular indicator as long as it builds upon existing real-world metaphors that everyone is familar with, such as a speedometer or gas gauge. One possible way to reinforce that metaphor would be to limit the circular indicator for s/a/h to one hemisphere, like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/imzy8swdukqm364/TreborMockup2.png

This would also free up the bottom hemisphere for additional info readouts.

Finally, I would like to thank CCP karkur and the rest of the team for going to the community for feedback early in the process. I think it's been very productive, and I hope that it becomes the expected norm.

Adaptive hardeners, so you know when to change their cycle?

Don't do it, just don't. I hate the idea of subtle. Suggest on an initial lock that the 'yellow box' flares up bright (very unsubtle) and over time it becomes subtle (flashing, dims, whatever). The idea is being locked is in your face but if nothing further happens it gets less attention. If over time there are a series of locks you can tell who has put on the latest lock so you can know the source of the latest threat.

this thread has become "information for informations sake". its not like knowing the damage type ur being hit with will change anything barring carrier groups being able to retrofit.

these also seems to be a spreading requirement to duplicate information in various areas on the screen. if you duplicate information then people get confused, plus more screen real estate gets used literally for no real reason! have it in one place thats logical and easy to find, not scattered in 5 different places jeez.

as much as i love a 20 page thread about the merits of circles vs squares, can we have something coming out of this that aids players experiences in space like fleet ewar/ecm effects on overview contacts. itd be a great benefit to all players.

Is there any chance to give option to players to choose from few UI templates?

For example this what you are making now to be advanced graphic version of UI,and what we are we using now to be lets say "compact" version.

I am not fan of cosmetic things like this UI looks,I like pure simple boxes and numbers that give me info what I need.I dont see what benefit I get from slick UI looks.It is nice to see ,but game wise beside nice cosmetic look it is not changing any.

Dont get me wrong ,but for example only sub based MMO that is still there is WoW.They dont have any problem giving players option to make UI as they like and it is like that for years .I dont say you need to do same ,but at least give us option so we can decide what is better for us.

UI changes are always pain ,I know you cant make all people happy ,still giving players more options is nice.For me as I said more graphic is something I dont like ,but that is personal so I cant say my choice is best for others.Saying that maybe it would be nice not to force players to use just one option as mandatory.

PS nice work ,I hope you would use all feedback when you make final version.

Will there be an option to return to the old interface like with windows 8... or maybe not :P?

On a serious note like the squares on top. Thing with curved objects is they can deceive you when they display information.

The day starts at midnight, at 12 o'clock, which is at the top of the clock, and the day progresses clock-wise. The targeting animation starts at "12 o'clock" and progresses clock-wise, same for the damage (shields starts at "12 o'clock"). Your mod timer animation observation is correct, it progresses clock-wise but starts at "6 o'clock"; perhaps that should be changed to start at "12 o'clock" as well. But that's for CCP karkur and Team Pony Express to think about if and how they want to tackle, not me.

And epically then CCP Atlas published an internal tech devblog today on how to monitor client calls.

The new UI looks nice. The functionality is of limited usefulness, though.

Whether a ship is in targeting range is not an important information in most ships and in most situations. Usually everyone will be in targeting range. But not in optimal range of our weapons or modules. The only regular exception is when you fly an interceptor or similar. So the more useful info would be: Is the target in optimal range? Is it within optimal+falloff?

Which ship does the most damage to me is more useful, but not much. If I fight an Ares, a Hurricane and a Drake, I don't need the UI tell me who hurts me most. The more useful info here would really be: Does this ship hurt me as much as it could? Are my evasion maneuvers working?

The dev blog recognizes how awful and useless the damage notifications are. Why don't you replace them with something else?
-make a new notification area
-messages are displayed in several rows so we cannot only see the last one
-filters can be applied to reduce the number of messages (filter out message about drones etc)
-shorten the messages to the essentials: "Name | severity of hit | damage amount" Cut the useless filler text so we can always see at first glance what's happening!


You can save cap by activating only the hardeners you need, and you can choose to overheat just the needed hardeners so you can overheat for longer periods before burning out.

While I can't say the devblog has excited me much there are tons of excellent suggestions in these comments.
I hope CCP is taking notes.