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High-sec Incursion Runners Community Agreement (HIRCA) - To Be Signed and Discussed (TVP, TDF, ISN)

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Soundwave Plays Diablo
Doomheim
#101 - 2012-08-29 18:25:37 UTC
Ghazu wrote:
Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:
Ghazu wrote:


Don't they run with more pilots so they need less minutes per site completion which results in increased isk/hr?
How is that griefing?


Adding pilots dramatically reduces the payout. Completing the sites faster is irrelevant while contesting because you have to switch systems. I have had ISN follow the fleet I was in (to another system) half a dozen times in one hour.


Why would they do that to grief you? I am sure they did the math, and whatever they were doing was for the most isk/hour. This may mean that their method requires more sites to be completed per hour to remain efficient, and it just happened that you guys were in the way?


1/10.

Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#102 - 2012-08-29 22:41:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Goldiiee
Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:
Ghazu wrote:
Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:
Ghazu wrote:


Don't they run with more pilots so they need less minutes per site completion which results in increased isk/hr?
How is that griefing?


Adding pilots dramatically reduces the payout. Completing the sites faster is irrelevant while contesting because you have to switch systems. I have had ISN follow the fleet I was in (to another system) half a dozen times in one hour.


Why would they do that to grief you? I am sure they did the math, and whatever they were doing was for the most isk/hour. This may mean that their method requires more sites to be completed per hour to remain efficient, and it just happened that you guys were in the way?


1/10.



Sadly it took me a little while to realize your problem, and to try to and help you resolve the confusion you are having. Most likely you were the victim of two or three ISN fleets, as most constellations have two or three VG systems we split our members into several fleets and cover as many systems as required to keep them all making ISK and not running into each other. This might be the a solution to your confusion that ISN is a small community we frequently have over 60 members online and usually have 30 members running 2 to 3 fleets at all times. Add to that our maxed out mindlinked OGB’s, and the complimentary ORE drop provided for all fleets from an Orca and, I can see how it would seem we are everywhere all at once.

You might not know this either but if you open the journal and look in the incursion tab you can see in the second ‘sub tab’ the descriptions of the sites and the number of ships allowed to participate before the pay is reduced, I can only assume you have never read these or you would already know that the max number of ships versus the minimum pay drops at 12, and further at 13, then to almost nothing for any number above that, we also read those ‘tabs’ in game and made our fleets accordingly.

I am pleased I was able to answer these points you had, since now it is obvious that ISN wasn’t griefing you: you just didn’t understand the game and the mechanics involved. I hope this advice helps you to read up on EVE-Online and find some of the more interesting things there are to do in this game. Hopefully you will be better at them.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.

Soundwave Plays Diablo
Doomheim
#103 - 2012-08-30 03:50:55 UTC
Quote:
I am pleased I was able to answer these points you had, since now it is obvious that ISN wasn’t griefing you: you just didn’t understand the game and the mechanics involved. I hope this advice helps you to read up on EVE-Online and find some of the more interesting things there are to do in this game. Hopefully you will be better at them.


Your intellectual dishonesty is legendary.
Yeyra
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#104 - 2012-08-30 05:33:13 UTC
Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:
Quote:
I am pleased I was able to answer these points you had, since now it is obvious that ISN wasn’t griefing you: you just didn’t understand the game and the mechanics involved. I hope this advice helps you to read up on EVE-Online and find some of the more interesting things there are to do in this game. Hopefully you will be better at them.


Your intellectual dishonesty is legendary.


How about proving that goldiiee isn't telling the truth?
Ghazu
#105 - 2012-08-30 07:24:51 UTC
Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:
Quote:
I am pleased I was able to answer these points you had, since now it is obvious that ISN wasn’t griefing you: you just didn’t understand the game and the mechanics involved. I hope this advice helps you to read up on EVE-Online and find some of the more interesting things there are to do in this game. Hopefully you will be better at them.


Your intellectual dishonesty is legendary.

You must be too distraught with grief to comprehend.

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984

Blawrf McTaggart
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#106 - 2012-08-30 14:45:18 UTC
nerds
Lag Amplifier
Insidious Bastards
#107 - 2012-08-31 00:48:38 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#108 - 2012-08-31 04:44:19 UTC
Krissada wrote:
Hehehe....
I can't wait to get my hands on you again ♥



I am going to be grinning over that post for a while. Twisted

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Vrykolakasis
Sparrowhawks Corp
#109 - 2012-08-31 07:40:21 UTC
Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:
Words.



CCP, I hate to sound harsh, but I do think EVE should have a minimum age requirement to play. Your game is phenomenal, but maybe a little too emotionally difficult for young minds.

Plus with an age requirement you can add the Incarna "special content."
Ludus Lucrius
WildCards 22nd
#110 - 2012-08-31 11:46:37 UTC
Hi

My 5 cents however worthless it might be :-)

No rotation. Kill MOM when it withdraws. If u have the will and numbers form up and contest it.

Communities that signed agreement might agree to auction the loot and split the profits among communities involved in MOM takedown (equally or in agreed upon shares or terms) to benefit their communities in some way (f.e. SRF ship replacement fund).

Or : If u want to give a chance to new incursioners to try out MOM sites u should stick to 1 for shield pilots 1 for armor pilots 1 for contesting. Among shield and armor communities u might assign communities who will make the core of the fleet that will help bring MOM site experience to new interested pilots.


Ludus


"Velle Est Posse"
Doc Severide
Doomheim
#111 - 2012-08-31 12:23:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Severide
James 315 wrote:
You call that a code? That's not a code. This is a code. Cool

Clearly written by a Delusional Crackpot. Get some help quickly...


Matriarch Prime wrote:
Hmm, I guess I won't be bothering with incursions any time soon if this is what is all about. And it was one of the things I was looking forward to trying after having been away from the game a while.

You guys should look at yourselves. You've turned a neat feature into a schoolyard politics.

They've turned it into a **** tard convention. Bunch of disgusting pricks...
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#112 - 2012-09-01 02:52:49 UTC
Doc Severide wrote:
James 315 wrote:
You call that a code? That's not a code. This is a code. Cool

Clearly written by a Delusional Crackpot. Get some help quickly...

What are you talking about? I wrote that Code myself. X

...And what part do you disagree with? If nothing, then what does that make you? Blink
Rio Bravo
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#113 - 2012-10-10 22:28:03 UTC
ISN are griefers, no question. To deny is just words, actions beleye the contrary claim. I don't really give a damn, but if CCP wanted to make it "fairer" they would lock the site gate until the second wave. Too many people who aren't even in ISN don't want this. Some even in the same fleet as myself when we were being grieved. I have become resigned to the fact that if people in EvE **** me off enough, I just stop playing. I can't speak for anyone else. Lots of other things to spend money on, than hanging out with people who TRY and make you misserable. So there lol.

“You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. I dig.”  - Clint Eastwood, misquote.

ISD TYPE40
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#114 - 2012-10-10 22:59:29 UTC
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Nadia Gallen
Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#115 - 2012-10-11 00:10:45 UTC
that would be why I hadn't read this before.

I was almost afraid I had missed this, but got futher confused when reading the first posts, realizing this was ancient information.

Freundliches Feuer
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#116 - 2012-10-11 10:37:42 UTC
Blawrf McTaggart wrote:
nerds


+1

Stupid carebears arguing over some carebear sh*t
Doddy
Excidium.
#117 - 2012-10-11 11:29:15 UTC
Well, i can see where the next carebear tears are going to come from.
Herr Ronin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#118 - 2012-10-11 12:02:22 UTC
Freundliches Feuer wrote:
Blawrf McTaggart wrote:
nerds


+1

Stupid carebears arguing over some carebear sh*t



Say's the Carebear who "used" to do Incursions, grown some teeth recently? you should stop shaving the fur you know, it cause's rashes.

Carebears these days.. Bear

I'll Race You For A Amburhgear

Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#119 - 2012-10-11 15:49:22 UTC
If I could, I should do all mom sites alone, just to grief all of you!
Play for fun and let the best (player or group) win............ nothing more or less.

What's next? Miners going to argue witch belt is who's???
Kodavor
Iz Doge Korp .
#120 - 2012-10-11 16:30:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Kodavor
Flurk Hellbron wrote:
If I could, I should do all mom sites alone, just to grief all of you!
Play for fun and let the best (player or group) win............ nothing more or less.

What's next? Miners going to argue witch belt is who's???



Sir ! This rock is mine so I mine what is mine . Could you please not mine mine rock ? Because if you do then you will be griefing me for 300 units of veldspar !