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Cloak rework

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Chou Saru
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-10-05 16:00:30 UTC
Is it just me that thinks cloaks need sorting out.. They work fine i have no problems with SB's or Recons but IMO anything that isn't a Covert ops/not designed to be a cloaky ship should have a timer on how it can be cloaked.. For arguements sake 20 minutes. Then maybe it has a 5 minute time in which i cant be reactivated once the cycle is over.


It's getting really rediculous these people that see +1 local.. Safe up and cloak afk for 4 hours+.
There is a guy in the surrounding systems i live in that sends his Nemesis alt through all the systems he plans to go through with his WCS, ECM and Cloak fit Itty 5. He then doubles back rechecking them and then scouts his itty through each system safing up and cloaking.. any sign of trouble he docks and logs or cloaks the itty and goes AFK for 3+ hours.

Same goes for the ratters here fitty cloaks to ishtars you enter system they pull drones, warp or cloak and then happily watch you do the plex they was doing not even attempting to steal the can at the end incase they die..just smacking you in local like a fool..


If you want a cloaky ship that can perma cloak Get something thats designed for that.



Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#2 - 2012-10-05 18:48:39 UTC
So many words and yet you still didn't manage to actually say what the problem is. So... what's the problem?
Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-10-05 18:59:23 UTC
sounds like he's mad about people using cloaks to hide from him
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#4 - 2012-10-05 19:22:30 UTC
Posting in an "Nerf AFK cloaking" thread #seriouslythisagainwtf?

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-10-05 20:06:07 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Posting in an "Nerf AFK cloaking" thread #seriouslythisagainwtf?



+1

They seem to go in waves. Just wrapping up one Nerf AFK cloaking thread in Warfare & Tactics...

Where to next, GD?
Cap James Tkirk
Baba Yagas
The Initiative.
#6 - 2012-10-05 20:38:06 UTC
1) so your mad that someone hauling is using a cloaky alt and a cloaky ship to get through null/low and make his life easier
a- if the biz dude wanted to lose his wares im sure he would jump blind without cloak Roll but he seems smarter then that have you tried new tactics or just mad you cant get that lil bassssterd

2) also you appear to be mad at site crashing and reaping the rewards because a guy cloaks when he sees you and smacks in local
a- you make the isk off the site he loses money technically you win by denying him what he wanted if you want PvP from the PvE fella try new tactics (refer to answer above for details)

so cloak is working as intended whats the issue?
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#7 - 2012-10-05 22:25:45 UTC
Cap James Tkirk wrote:
1)

so cloak is working as intended whats the issue?


Butthurt. Massive amounts of it from the looks of it. OP seems to be overflowing with it.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Cap James Tkirk
Baba Yagas
The Initiative.
#8 - 2012-10-05 22:27:31 UTC
"good good let the hurt flow through you"
How2FoldSoup
Hull Tanking Elitists
#9 - 2012-10-06 01:23:35 UTC
If you nerf cloaks then nerf local Twisted
Marcus Gideon
Triglavian Assembly
#10 - 2012-10-06 02:03:20 UTC
How2FoldSoup wrote:
Before you nerf cloaks then nerf local Twisted

Fixed...

The problem isn't having a random person in your local, who is most likely in a very fragile ship, and really not a threat at all...

The problem is, you know there's someone out there. And your imagination has dreamt up such a scary Boogeyman, that you can't help but dock up and wet yourself until the scary face goes away.

Leave High and Low Sec Local like it is. As soon as someone enters system, their name and face pop up. This reflects Concord and the Empires monitoring traffic.

Change Null Sec to match Wormhole space. Nobody shows up until they speak up. I'd personally push it further, and have the names disappear after they've been silent for 15min, but that's just me.

Then all the "hard core" 0.0 care bears will quit crying about the scary man hiding in the closet.
Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-10-08 09:16:58 UTC
So the O.P. recap is.

Person with superior PvP Ship is angry the Lesser ships don't want to fight with him?

how strange.
AFK Cloaker
Matari Exodus
#12 - 2012-10-08 11:37:05 UTC
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The VC's
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-10-08 12:50:54 UTC
8/10
Backfyre
Hohmann Transfer
#14 - 2012-10-08 17:22:03 UTC
Eliminate local and / or tie local to your d-scan. Then their presence won't bother you anymore. You can also just ignore local and achieve the same result.
Gabrielle Lamb
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-10-08 20:23:45 UTC
Cloaks are fine the way they are. In fact they're very well balance. The only thing they hurt is your pride and your mental health.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#16 - 2012-10-09 01:03:44 UTC
Yet another thread whicch can be paraphrased thus: "Ublublublublublublublublub"
Ravnik
Infinate Horizon
#17 - 2012-10-10 09:15:41 UTC
Why cant people just post in the million or so threads which already exist crying over cloakers and how they are too scared to undock so they can safely make iskies in low / null!

The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly..........

Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-10-10 13:22:57 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
So many words and yet you still didn't manage to actually say what the problem is. So... what's the problem?



the problem is his corp and or alliance is filled with people too lazy (or stupid) to keep tabs on an afk cloaky to never now when they are actually afk. Not that hard. First place to check is kb's. In the oceanic TZ, the afk is always dying or seeing lots of ninjya cyno gang killls USTZ prime time....probably not on 1800 in say Australia.

Or someone goes oh yeah, I saw that dude move systems 3 hours before dt. Saw him on a gate before I could do anything and he booked. Rolls in an arazu. Little bit of long term memory and you figure out who is actually there.

Or you get lucky (and unlucky) like I have and ccp has an emergency reboot around 1500 japan TZ. had this happen a couple time That AFK cloaky did not show up until after the real DT which runs 2000 in japan tz. Saw him for days after and jsut did not have the heart to tell him the jig was up. I actually liked him there. I neglected to tell people of my findings. Kept a nice belt system all to myself that way lol. I know it goes against what I said in the first part. But all the damn carriers took the good crap and never said go on and have a go next reset. Needed to make my isk somehow lol.


Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-10-11 14:13:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Cedo Nulli
Sooooo the OP made a post about some pro-hauler owning his futile attempts of ganking ?

Somewhat strange thing to go yelling about.