EVE General Discussion

My production profits have halfed in the last few months because the markets are flooded with raw materials. Your numbers in fack back up what I am saying as they show a big rise in value at the start of the year then a drop off after the sumer changes.

Just to be clear, you're saying when supply went up, prices went up.

That's not correct.

Value = Demand / Supply

So when supply goes up, value goes down if demand is constant.

I hope this was helpful.

You conveniently neglect the reactionary flood of materials from speculators sitting on large supplies.

Thank you very much for your thoughtful posting.

In an attempt to lower supply for the future.

Lower supply with consistent demand should yield higher prices in the future.

Which is what we were seeing for a while, predictibly.

We can watch prices and not only predict what the supply is, but also the demand, through market history.

At the end of the day, vast speculative mineral stores were opeend up when the game changed in a way that favored selling them at inflationary prices.

I believe some of those reserves still continue to have an impact on prices, for the time being.

That would cause prices to go down, not up like they did. Tier 3 BSs are still at ~250M (~150M before the change).

And no, hisec "mining bots" can't keep highend supply as high as it was before the change. Remember that drone regions were great source of highends.



He says that supply of materials has gone up after removal of meta 0 loot and drone stuff.

In reality supply of especially highends has gone down.

Your argument is that NPC corps need to stay in place because 'they protect newbies'. I point out that newbies and their ships are totally susceptible to things like suicide ganking at negligible costs for the ganker. The question is, if anyone can kill newbies for any reason without any real difficulty or warning, then NPC corps are really **** poor at fulfilling the purpose you say justifies their existence, right? And if they aren't doing that, then why bother keeping them considering all the harm they do? Remember, the helpful chat channel can easily exist outside the gamebreaking wardec-immune supercorp.

I imagine them as freelancers, able to be dec and be decced as individuals, going about their business however they like while asking questions in some NPC corp chat channel. Newbies and casual players wouldn't be worth the dec, while the AFK autopilot freighter alt would be. It'd be up to the players to decide whether they wish to take their chances and fight their battles alone or join a group and work towards collective security. You know, a sandbox. As opposed to now where it's the small newbie player-run corp that doesn't know about decshields and NPC corp PvE alts that are eating the brunt of the griefdecs (more ways that NPC corps harm newbies and should be removed). Zipping around in a noobship with no safety net isn't a big deal. Heavily ratting with a officer-fit pimpboat might be another story though ;).

The 'protections' afforded to 'genuinely new players' by NPC corps are pitiful. Again, anyone can roll out with a catalyst and snuff out the t1 hull carrying a new player's worldly goods at any time for any reason, wardec or no, NPC corp or no. That's not real protection, it doesn't even come close to justifying the gross harm and distortion a wardec-free mode in EVE does. In practice, NPC corps serve to protect experienced players able to afford ships with buckets of EHP that remove the threat of ganking in all but the most extreme of pilot error. Players that can't exactly hide under a cover of 'noobness' as justification for exemption from wardecs that everyone else in EVE has to deal with. Players like yourself.

Demand for ABCs is relatively low due to their low composition requirement in most production.

To the point, the vast majority of low-end minerals come from high-sec mining.

Also, "way higher" doesn't matter if models of causality predict a rise in supply ad-infinitum.

Infinity is greater than "way high." Runaway supply is bad for Eve's market health (and arguably Eve itself).

Risk adds value. Taking risk away removes value.

In real life that can be a real bummer.

Fortunately we're HTFU'd immortal humans in another galaxy in this game.

Demand for ABCs is relatively low due to their low composition requirement in most production.

It doesn't matter how high supply of anything was.

Infinity is higher than that.

Regardless of where we happen to be right now.