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PI HAULING RAGE
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irishFour
Almost Dangerous
#1 - 2012-10-09 23:48:35 UTC
First, lets state, the PRIMAE is crap, and utterly useless. 2km3 PI hold, yeah thanks, but no thanks.
Now i just discovered something.
iteron 3, full fit for max cargo with t1 rigs, 18km3 and change
iteron 4, full fit for max cargo with t1 rigs, 20km3 and change
iteron 5, full fit for max cargo with t1 rigs, 38km3 and change.

WHAT THE HELL IS THAT. how is there a near 100% increase in capacity from one skill level to another from 4-5, but from 3-4, there's about 15% increase. Doesn't make any sense, and im pissed off that i built and fit four itty4's and now they are useless and im not going to commit the training time to my alts, until im ready to shoot to level 5.

All of this rage is centered on my need for a real industrial ship for PI. I would gladly purchase an obelisk, as I have two toons that can fly them, but they cant load and unload in space, meaning it doesn't cut down any of my fly around time, I bought an orca thinking i could use its hold, NOPE. so im stuck hauling weekend away because im accumulating about 350km3 a week in PI material and the best I have is a damn itty5.

Bringing me to my point. I want an Orca sized industrial ship with either an all purpose hold or a PI hold. Make it a very focused ship and give me 400km3 PI hold. it would tickle me pink, but more and more i find my self needing a heavy transport some where between an obelisk and an itty5, with the ability to load in space.
Please ccp, see this as a chance to introduce another ship into the game without destroying balance.

I like to have my cake and eat it too
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#2 - 2012-10-10 00:18:39 UTC
pretty sure the Ity5 can get near 60k m3Smile
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irishFour
Almost Dangerous
#3 - 2012-10-10 00:22:43 UTC
Mars Theran wrote:
pretty sure the Ity5 can get near 60k m3Smile


most ive seen with t2 rigs is 44km3. just made it on eft, 43km3 and change. I need more, in the worse way

I like to have my cake and eat it too
kerradeph
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-10-10 00:35:16 UTC
irishFour wrote:
Mars Theran wrote:
pretty sure the Ity5 can get near 60k m3Smile


most ive seen with t2 rigs is 44km3. just made it on eft, 43km3 and change. I need more, in the worse way

he might be talking about stacking secure cans in a T2 rigged itty5. you can get a little more, but even with that I think it's around 50.
Furry Commander
Furry Armada
#5 - 2012-10-10 01:01:53 UTC
Orca... best ship in eve. i use it for everything

[Orca, General Transport]
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
'Cetus' ECM Shockwave I
EM Ward Amplifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Improved Cloaking Device II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Expanded Probe Launcher II, Core Scanner Probe I

Large Cargohold Optimization I
Large Cargohold Optimization II
Large Cargohold Optimization II


Hornet EC-300 x5
Vespa EC-600 x5


put that in your eft and smoke it.

over 140000 M3 of space without using containers about 182000 with them and it warps faster than an itty 5. requires good skills and a 5% powergrid implant, but its way cheaper than using the 100MN digital booster fit it is relatively gank resistant especially if you are just hauling PI goods this should handle your goop on 2 runs. you can drop the ECM burst if you never plan on taking it anywhere dangerous. swap to a second invuln it should fit. has the added benefit of a ship maintainance array so if you need to make lowsec runs more safely you can tote a blockade runner with you
Lavitakus Bromier
WTF Bunnies
#6 - 2012-10-10 01:04:26 UTC
Ya but how slow is that all riged up.
Make low sec pi freaking impossible
I know most you think low sec pi is pointless not i.
Furry Commander
Furry Armada
#7 - 2012-10-10 01:16:30 UTC
Lavitakus Bromier wrote:
Ya but how slow is that all riged up.
Make low sec pi freaking impossible
I know most you think low sec pi is pointless not i.


how slow is waht? the itty 5? takes like 15 or 20 seconds to align that orace fit is cheap. click warp and pulse the MWD and you are off. its an awesome fit and i have had good success iwth it in both low and nul. for PI however usually use a blockade runner to gather PI. faster if you multibox and just sit in a safe cloaked while the cloaky gets the goods