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Shugga Ditz
Chaos Army
#101 - 2012-10-09 10:33:28 UTC
Why you keep reposting your blog articles and replying to them here on eve-o? Not enough people reading your blog? Take a hint...
Josef Djugashvilis
#102 - 2012-10-09 10:37:30 UTC
Perhaps what is needed is for CCP to give up 'tinkering' with the whole hi-sec, lo-sec, null-sec balancing act and completely rethink the whole concept of Eve space.

Back to the drawing board, with as much input from players as possible.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#103 - 2012-10-09 10:45:39 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Perhaps what is needed is for CCP to give up 'tinkering' with the whole hi-sec, lo-sec, null-sec balancing act and completely rethink the whole concept of Eve space.

Back to the drawing board, with as much input from players as possible.

The changes CCP need to make are rather simple. All that is wrong for mining for example is the mack needs its base EHP reduced to that of the hulk with perhaps a slight nerf to its yeild so the other exhumers can shine. Missions should be slighty riskier i that yo now that you cant afk them in a domi.
Spurty
#104 - 2012-10-09 10:56:48 UTC
Dats a lot of wah wah wah from a tough (keep toes warm, pick on people that can't fight back, nuetral Alts repping me as I hug a station) pvper

Way to go

Hope you cry your way out of the game and then go back to whatever **** slapping game you came from

CCPs game, not yours

HTFU and move to null so I can pod you back to zero sp

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#105 - 2012-10-09 11:01:00 UTC
Lyrrashae wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:


]...] I'm all for ganking idiots but not by means of convoluted mechanics such as people dropping cans marked free stuff outside noob stations and then ganking those who take from them because they don't know any better, hopefully the new idiot switch will prevent this kind of thing happening. [...]


This is against the game-rules --one thing that CCP explicitly names as griefing, in fact-- and can get you banned if you do it.

Ergo, idiot-switch not needed, at least here, unless CCP has stopped enforcing that rule?


And yet people still do it, or were up until very recently, I'll run the tutorials again on a trial this week and see how many yellow cans are in tutorial specific areas, especially the scanning tutorials. I sincerely hope I'm wrong but some people just get off on killing nubs.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#106 - 2012-10-09 11:13:57 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:


And yet people still do it, or were up until very recently, I'll run the tutorials again on a trial this week and see how many yellow cans are in tutorial specific areas, especially the scanning tutorials. I sincerely hope I'm wrong but some people just get off on killing nubs.

When you do make sure you take them and when they kill you report them to CCP. You can also add them to your contacts so you cand get the satisfaction of seeing when they get banned.
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#107 - 2012-10-09 11:20:17 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
The flip side of the new idiot switch is that CCP are trying to appeal to a wider demographic, hopefully drawing them in from other MMOs where molly coddling and hand holding are the norm. Some of the current mechanics are arcane and convoluted to say the least and it's very easy to trick the uneducated into doing something unwise. Personally I hope they succeed in bringing in new players so that we can introduce them to a proper game that doesn't involve cartoon pets and proper PvP where if you die you actually lose stuff.

However if they go too far with the idjit proofing they risk alienating their current players, and the current players are the ones that have created Eves reputation as the pinnacle of what a game can be.

TL;DR Gaining new players is good, losing old players is not.


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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#108 - 2012-10-09 11:23:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
So you basically copy-pasted thoughts from themittani ont the very same topic and posted them in your blog and then expect us to increase its hit counter.

Really, you're going downhill man, watch out.

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III ZiggyBang
One Point 0
#109 - 2012-10-09 11:42:47 UTC
There's too much hi-sec in the game, it shouldn't be possible to fly from one empire to another without going through low at least, hi-sec is just a waste of eve imho.
Josef Djugashvilis
#110 - 2012-10-09 11:45:44 UTC
III ZiggyBang wrote:
There's too much hi-sec in the game, it shouldn't be possible to fly from one empire to another without going through low at least, hi-sec is just a waste of eve imho.


Don't like hi-sec?

Don't go there.

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Taranius De Consolville
Doomheim
#111 - 2012-10-09 11:46:49 UTC
I just think its laughable u think CCP give a rats ass
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#112 - 2012-10-09 12:32:54 UTC
III ZiggyBang wrote:
There's too much hi-sec in the game, it shouldn't be possible to fly from one empire to another without going through low at least, hi-sec is just a waste of eve imho.


Okay, that's just being totally narrow-minded.

Refer to the threads "Lowsec is dead". Too much Lowsec space?
It's pointless, totally pointless, to play a game where every single gate is camped.

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Anslo
Scope Works
#113 - 2012-10-09 12:35:48 UTC
Jim you haven't piped in yet, I'm worried...

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Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#114 - 2012-10-09 12:36:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Wacktopia
Eve is a bit like being at the beach. Most people want to go for a swim out into the sea and go on little boats and stuff but they also like to come back to the beach to eat an icecream or whatever.

Take away the beach and it's just sea, and no-one will come. Take away the sea and it's just a desert, and no-one will come.

#seewhatidid?

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Christy D Floyd
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#115 - 2012-10-09 13:26:05 UTC
Posting in a bittervet thread.

OP is crying but why? Why give the carebears like myself so many tears?

I know you are mad that carebears live in safety in Highsec while you have to actually work hard in lowsec/nullsec.

Well you have to give the carebears credit they work smart not hard. Its not our fault you cant adapt with these changes.

Its not our fault you feel butthurt.

If your so upset about this why dont you change the game oh thats right its not your game and its not mine either, its none of ours.


Show me on the doll where the carebear touched you.

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Signal11th
#116 - 2012-10-09 15:05:53 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
I would not be surprised to see some change in 2013 that greatly limits the effectiveness of freighter ganking.

If certain segments of the player population begin to notice that the water is warming, then redirect the hell out of these potentially damaging conversations with "one day we'd like players to take over for CONCORD." And the rising complaints are mollified as those players forget about the temperature of the water and begin fantasizing themselves in the role of space police. They'll say "CCP understands where to take this game. These new features change the nature of the sandbox, but it's meant to move us to the promised land. So we'll wait and see."

But what is this promised land? Under what conditions could CCP remove CONCORD and not break the game? As it stands now, to turn off CONCORD would be to turn all of highsec into lowsec. And that's definitely not going to happen. Never. Ever. So the promised land has to be a place where space has become so safe, so regimented, so rules restricted, that CONCORD is an entity that is rarely required. Suspect and criminal flags such a rare occurence, that players can become the police, because the need for a super-police is now moot. And this might be the situation that CCP Soundwave envisions. The only real instance in which CONCORD can be safely removed from the game is one where they are no longer needed. Players can then call themselves the space police, except that there's nothing left to police.



To be brutally honest most of the time I think you talk complete cobblers but on this you are correct although the same story has been said by many other people myself included. Hello Kitty is a serious business don't you know.

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Signal11th
#117 - 2012-10-09 15:07:11 UTC
Wacktopia wrote:
Eve is a bit like being at the beach. Most people want to go for a swim out into the sea and go on little boats and stuff but they also like to come back to the beach to eat an icecream or whatever.

Take away the beach and it's just sea, and no-one will come. Take away the sea and it's just a desert, and no-one will come.

#seewhatidid?



Yep, talk shite apparently.

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Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#118 - 2012-10-09 15:22:06 UTC
Nikodiemus wrote:
Can flipping, high-sec ganking and concord insurance huh..... I think you are referring to something other than PvPers. That, or you don't PvP much do you?

As someone that loves PvP I can say that I am insulted by your childish and amateur description of "PvPers".

Everything in EVE is PVP. Deal with it.

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IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
#119 - 2012-10-09 15:34:42 UTC
Until a decent rival game is released CCP can get away with World of Eve(tm)

Just have to hope this game remains playable until such a rival is released
Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#120 - 2012-10-09 16:33:27 UTC
Signal11th wrote:
Wacktopia wrote:
Eve is a bit like being at the beach. Most people want to go for a swim out into the sea and go on little boats and stuff but they also like to come back to the beach to eat an icecream or whatever.

Take away the beach and it's just sea, and no-one will come. Take away the sea and it's just a desert, and no-one will come.

#seewhatidid?



Yep, talk shite apparently.


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