Crime & Punishment

Oh, watch out guys. We have a real hardman on our hands here.

Quite an elegant way to say absolutely nothing at all.

So I'm back from Vegas now. I talked to Veritas and Soundwave quite a bit, and they find the entire thing hilarious. Soundwave gave me his business card so I could give him details about things, and Veritas was just enjoying everyone's misfortune. They were both really cool guys. Veritas was very chaotic neutral about everything.

In short, it seems they plan to let us continue for quite some time, as they haven't received enough complaints or requests to change things yet. So for the foreseeable future we'll all be able to enjoy these wars together.

Zerg is having fun trouble shooting parts of Eve. He's providing a valuable service while being paid in tears. Not a bad trade-off imo.

You depict (2) GM's as being heinous game haXors wielding their power-wand in all aspects of the game. For this alone, you are bad.

CCP are publishers... they allow you to have conflict through free-interaction otherwise this game would be no more interesting than your real life.

This topic. Not that serious.

Aussie meet, nobody cares.

I don't understand why you people are confused. The surrender doesn't work because the people offering surrender do it on their own terms.

If they would contact us directly and use convo to discuss the terms, then maybe it would work. Instead they just send an offer and expect us to say "ok" to 100 mill.

Another problem is that there is no way to counter offer the surrender, which I think would be nice. You only have an option to say yes or no.

Many corps who were mutual to me have closed their corps, then re-opened them again under the same name (which seems like a viable counter exploit). CCP should make it once the corp closes during a mutual war, the shares are divided between all the conquerors based on % killed. (proly too complicated).

The corp should not be able to be reopened with the same name. WarDec is an ever evolving process, I don't ever expect it to be perfect.

I was talking about this:

imo null sec shoulda been fixed way before hi sec griefer mechanics, and now hi sec is paying the price

but carry on this is fun :)

Well let me get my wizard cap, cause all game publishers are grand, dreamy, and special ..:|;-)

Out of curiosity, are you in this?

http://soundcloud.com/neutronblaster/bayushitomadoucherage

Also, you post too much... like 15-20 posts a day... Seek help.

On topic: What is the benefit of making a war mutual Zerg? Ofc we are at war, so fun and shenanigans will be, and should be had. That is the nature and fun within this game we play. I bs you, you bs me. And so the universe functions as it should.

Kind regards,

-KcD

You didn't read the thread at all did you?
The benefit of him making the war mutual is that now your corporation can never join an alliance ever again. Your war also can now be transferred to anyone at any-time for any length of time. in 24 hours notice you could be at war with any entity, some of which could lay dormant for months or years.

Now you might be thinking, I don't want to join an alliance anyway, and that you don't care that you could be at war with anyone at anytime, and that your corporation is only 5 members strong so disbanding it is no big deal right?

Thats exactly the point Zerg is trying to make. These new rules make deccing anyone in anything aside from a throw-away alt corp completely stupid. The whole point of the changes was to plug exploits, and make war something where you commit, but at the same time, get rid of bullying and 1 man-shows, however ironically the inferno rules encourage just that. Want to dec that corp that keeps can flipping/harrasing/stealing from your missions/griefing you? Want to dec the pirates camping the pipe to 0.0 to your space? Want to dec the people who keep camping your 0.0 entry gate but jump to the safety of highsec everytime your PvPers arrive? Want to dec the rival corporation who is mining your ore or producing the same stuff as you? Want to become a mercenary outfit?

Well good luck with that. Now for almost any ""legitimate"" (Air Quotes needed) reason to go to war other than on your alt in a throwaway corp for lulz has horrendous consequences. Never being able to join an alliance again, and locked permanently in an at war corp with anyone who wants to be at war with you, which could just be a 1 man alt corporation which stays logged off for 5 months, or a guy who is constantly stalking you, you don't know, you will always have to look over your shoulder.

Any alliance gets caught with this now also faces unique problems. All of it's members suffer the same fate, and any member corp that wishes to join said alliance will suffer the same fate, the infected alliance will be the last alliance that any applying corp, or any member corporation ever applies too, if they leave, they can't join another alliance ever again without disbanding.

Also worth pointing out that alliances can also seek the warm protection of dec-shield.

1. Create an alt corporation, bonus points for appropriate name such as "lolnomorealliancesforu"
2. Apply and Accept it into your alliance.
3. IF you ever get war declared on your alliance, "lolnomorealliancesforu" leaves the alliance, and applies to join Dec-Shield. After 24 hours, Now your aggressors can never join an alliance ever again!! Or if it's alliance, all its current and future members get infected and can never join an alliance afterwards ever again! And they also all have to deal with the threat of being at war permanently, and the war can be transferred to any willing entity within 24 hours, forever.
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4. Profit!!.... err... well tears and hopefully a whine thread and petitions so CCP can fix this ****** mechanic.

Don't forget to put this information and a link to this thread in your alliance description!!