EVE General Discussion

My honest option:

Well to be frank I won't even try. My friends generally don't like computer games all too much and they don't really have time to waste time on staring at mining lasers for hours, doing the same missions all over and over or look for fights for hours. Most won't like the fact that you're basically a picture and not an interactive character either.

Most people I know have busy lives, some have children and they'd rather play games where they can logon, play with their friends for a while and logoff.
A few may join when I'll play GW2 (some played GW1 too) but EVE is far too time consuming for them, they'd feel it's an extra job, not a lighthearted fun hobby with a lot of options for some active teamwork.

I had a friend who was interested in EVE

I told him straight the game has a long learning curve. is boring to most people, is depressing and if you ar enot a carebear it can be pretty unforgiving

He was excited and signed up the next day lol

Would I recommend it? If my friend is a sci-fi fan, a gamer, and had other RL friends playing it, then I would recommend EVE Online. After that I would back them up with ships, and isk. A RL friend in this game is worth their weight in Arkonor.

AAAnd i quote (myself) ...

EvE is an ******* game.
It's hard.
It's not even about fun.
It's about work, building yourself up and getting the reward for it, which makes it awesome on one hand
and angers you to death on the other, when you lose something you've worked for all week long.

No other game can compete with this one, because EvE is unique.

You either harden up ... or go back to WoW.


Why we don't have subscription numbers like WoW ?
Because most people are soft, weak and whiny when they have to cope with pain and losses.


We EvE players are elitists for a reason.

If you play it right, it doesn't end up being a boring grind fest and mind numbingly stupid like your typical MMO. The first couple months will probably be boring as ****, but after that it's not nearly as tedious or boring as most other MMOs on the market.

I say much of what everyone else has said already in this thread. But I also tell my friends that eve is for people who are intelligent, willing to figure things out on their own, willing to ask questions but make their own decisions, people who are not afraid of making mistakes, and most importantly, NEVER take anything that happens in the game personally. That Eve can be as boring or as intense as YOU choose it to be, that it is YOUR game to play, and although tons of people will give you advice and information, ultimately nobody is going to hold your hand.

I then point them to the Clear Skies movies and tell them to watch those first (ok, actually they all ended up watching the movies while downloading the client usually by then!) - and yes, I explain that only the space scenes are from Eve.

Sometime during their first week of playing, I bring them into low sec and get them over their first death Some decide to carebear it nearly exclusively after that, others are completely hooked on the rush and pursue PVP, some go for a mix of both... but so far, every last one of my friends I've brought into Eve are still playing Eve.

Awesome game, most in-depth, risk vs reward balanced, long term investment game. You can be casual and hardcore both, or be one and then the other, without losing much in terms of progress against other player. New players can be useful even with or against older ones.

All that said, hate the company that runs it, and what they have become. They are terrible at fixing bugs, balancing content, etc. heavy handed nerfs without care to what it does to the people affected by them, and leaving overpowered stuff overpowered for years at a time.

So yeah, awesome game, terrible company.

I would not say this is true. EVE has a lot more PvE Content then a lot of PvE Centered Games and offers more protection then a lot of other MMO's.

If you look at a list of PvE Based Content it is pretty competitive with almost any MMO.

Missions
Quest Chains(Arcs)
DED Complexes
Escalation Complexes
Anomelies
Exploration Sites
Hauling Missions
Sleeper Sites
Incursions Raids

That right there is 4 times as much as any MMO that is not AAA. That's not even counting all of the stuff that is non combat PvP. Such as jobs which intersect heavily with the Market but most outside of EVE would not consider.

Mining and Harvesting
Production
Trading

This we know to be PvP because the lack of NPC buy orders but someone from another game would say "what do you mean your Auction House is PvP?" I still marvel at the scale of our Market System.

Anyway PvP is a big part of this game. Competition is as major an undertone as Ship to Ship Combat. But for direct PvE and PvE with limited competition EVE does not have it bad.

Not to say you should not take the time every once and a while to shoot someone. Ship Combat PvP is a really big part of EVE. But as an MMO EVE has quite a lot for everyone.

This.

Backed up by a publisher which actively encourages this behaviour, turns a blind eye to meta gaming, and is powerless to make any kind of impression on botting and RMT.

I wouldn't be much of a friend to recommend this to them.

They would be better off giving me £15 per month to give them glimmer of what could have been, whilst I repeatedly kick them in the balls (or vagina... lets not be sexist here). Then whilst there lying on the ground wheeping from the pain, I would then take a picture and post this online to everyone to show them how pathetic they are being, ensuring to tell them to "give me your stuff, on your way out".

it's the best analogy of this game and it's community, as well it's publishers, I can think of.

Actually this explains a lot: Test: Newbies welcome

It show's why the gap between vets and noobs is a myth

whoever has got kicked in the face by a bunch of T1 frigs knows what i am taliking about.