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Players With Bounties On Them Shouldn't Have CONCORD Protection
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Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-10-08 02:16:11 UTC
If CCP really cared about EVE and wanted to make Bounty Hunting(r) a viable profession they would do this.

By removing CONCORD protection from anyone with a bounty a bounty hunter will be able to actually fulfill the request even in hi sec. It doesn't make sense that you can't kill someone with a bounty on them with no consequences in hi sec.
Pasta OfDoom
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-10-08 02:18:05 UTC
inb4 hundreds of ways to abuse this with 5k bounties.
IMO, the level of concord protection should be proportional to their sec status (which it already is) and the size of the bounty. That would be a nice system.
RAGE QU1T
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-10-08 02:18:14 UTC
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
If CCP really cared about EVE and wanted to make Bounty Hunting(r) a viable profession they would do this.

By removing CONCORD protection from anyone with a bounty a bounty hunter will be able to actually fulfill the request even in hi sec. It doesn't make sense that you can't kill someone with a bounty on them with no consequences in hi sec.



How do you prevent this from being abused and a get out of jail free card from concord?
Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-10-08 02:18:57 UTC
RAGE QU1T wrote:
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
If CCP really cared about EVE and wanted to make Bounty Hunting(r) a viable profession they would do this.

By removing CONCORD protection from anyone with a bounty a bounty hunter will be able to actually fulfill the request even in hi sec. It doesn't make sense that you can't kill someone with a bounty on them with no consequences in hi sec.



How do you prevent this from being abused and a get out of jail free card from concord?


If they didn't get a sec status low enough to get a bounty they wouldn't have a problem.

Crime pays.
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#5 - 2012-10-08 02:21:08 UTC
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
RAGE QU1T wrote:
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
If CCP really cared about EVE and wanted to make Bounty Hunting(r) a viable profession they would do this.

By removing CONCORD protection from anyone with a bounty a bounty hunter will be able to actually fulfill the request even in hi sec. It doesn't make sense that you can't kill someone with a bounty on them with no consequences in hi sec.



How do you prevent this from being abused and a get out of jail free card from concord?


If they didn't get a sec status low enough to get a bounty they wouldn't have a problem.

Crime pays.

The new bounty system allows you to put bounties on ships.

Clearly CONCORD should not protect...ships...Roll

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
RAGE QU1T
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-10-08 02:21:23 UTC
Ball up and fit a suicide ship. or find them on low sec or 0.0
Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-10-08 02:22:51 UTC
RAGE QU1T wrote:
Ball up and fit a suicide ship. or find them on low sec or 0.0


So you agree with CCP that bounty hunting is a toy profession?
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#8 - 2012-10-08 02:25:14 UTC
It would be really cool if you could come up with ideas that would make more people want to do PVP in highsec, not make it even more problematic. Don't get me wrong, this isn't a horrible idea at all, but if everyone in highsec is going to be able to shoot at you then it's probably prudent to balance it out by adding some kind of advantage to being a criminal.

Discouraging criminal gameplay through making game mechanics more penalizing will just make less people want to be criminals, which is bad.
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#9 - 2012-10-08 02:29:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Darth Gustav
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
It would be really cool if you could come up with ideas that would make more people want to do PVP in highsec, not make it even more problematic. Don't get me wrong, this isn't a horrible idea at all, but if everyone in highsec is going to be able to shoot at you then it's probably prudent to balance it out by adding some kind of advantage to being a criminal.

Discouraging criminal gameplay through making game mechanics more penalizing will just make less people want to be criminals, which is bad.

The new bounty system is entirely independent of criminal flagging or standings.

Any player. Any ship.

The more I think about it the more I like this idea.

I want to put bounties on all Mackinaws so they lose CONCORD protection.

Yay. Profit.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#10 - 2012-10-08 02:29:10 UTC
this would render all highsec residents into outlawas within minutes after the patch

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#11 - 2012-10-08 02:32:19 UTC
Darth Gustav wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
It would be really cool if you could come up with ideas that would make more people want to do PVP in highsec, not make it even more problematic. Don't get me wrong, this isn't a horrible idea at all, but if everyone in highsec is going to be able to shoot at you then it's probably prudent to balance it out by adding some kind of advantage to being a criminal.

Discouraging criminal gameplay through making game mechanics more penalizing will just make less people want to be criminals, which is bad.

The new bounty system is entirely independent of criminal flagging or standings.

Any player. Any ship.

The more I think about it the more I like this idea.

I want to put bounties on all Mackinaws so they lose CONCORD protection.

Yay. Profit.

I was specifically referring to the idea of the OPs. I mean, if you're going to make it so you don't have concord protection in highsec if you have a bounty, then there sure as hell better be some damn good things you can do to people to get yourself a bounty to begin with.
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-10-08 02:32:22 UTC
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
If CCP really cared about EVE

I hate it when people say this.

Of course they care about EVE. It's what keeps them all employed! Just because you think you, in your infinite wisdom, know better than they do about how to manage their own game, doesn't make you correct. As pointed out already, there are flaws in your "idea".

Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#13 - 2012-10-08 02:33:33 UTC
I'd be fine with this change if it also includes a change to CONCORD that makes it as effective and bribeable as average real-life cops.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
RAGE QU1T
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-10-08 02:34:14 UTC
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
RAGE QU1T wrote:
Ball up and fit a suicide ship. or find them on low sec or 0.0


So you agree with CCP that bounty hunting is a toy profession?


"Working as intended" Now move along let them work on POS's and Corp managment
Hrothgar Nilsson
#15 - 2012-10-08 02:35:43 UTC
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
If CCP really cared about EVE and wanted to make Bounty Hunting(r) a viable profession they would do this.

By removing CONCORD protection from anyone with a bounty a bounty hunter will be able to actually fulfill the request even in hi sec. It doesn't make sense that you can't kill someone with a bounty on them with no consequences in hi sec.

99.9% of the players of EVE would have bounties on their heads if placing bounties removed CONCORD retaliation.

It's rather transparent that what you actually want is no CONCORD intervention for attacks in high-sec.

I've... seen things you people wouldn't believe...

Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion...
Alotta Baggage
Radioactive Lobster Shipping
#16 - 2012-10-08 02:36:01 UTC
Concord shouldn't protect people with blue hair either
Torvin Yulus
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-10-08 02:37:01 UTC
its griefers tlike you that really make mes pissed i canyt stand this bullshit

you know what i pay 150 a month on this game for my accounts and all i want to do is mine in peace but you griefers come with your hulkageddon and your technoophium bottleneck and you make my game suck well you know whar your gonna get yours because god doesn't forgive.

im a pubby and im proud
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#18 - 2012-10-08 02:40:05 UTC
This is the best goon trolling alt ever.
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#19 - 2012-10-08 02:40:22 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
its griefers tlike you that really make mes pissed i canyt stand this bullshit

you know what i pay 150 a month on this game for my accounts and all i want to do is mine in peace but you griefers come with your hulkageddon and your technoophium bottleneck and you make my game suck well you know whar your gonna get yours because god doesn't forgive.

I like the cut of your jib, kid.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
RAGE QU1T
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-10-08 02:40:47 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
its griefers tlike you that really make mes pissed i canyt stand this bullshit

you know what i pay 150 a month on this game for my accounts and all i want to do is mine in peace but you griefers come with your hulkageddon and your technoophium bottleneck and you make my game suck well you know whar your gonna get yours because god doesn't forgive.



Here's a tissue, Train a logi toon and have sit at the belt , or recruit one into your corp and pay him to provide protection. for spending 150 a month i think you a spare a toon unless your one of those indy guys that "Really" needs his ore not matter what costs.
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