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Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-10-07 19:03:18 UTC
Although I posses many righteous skills a black belt in google is not one of them. Can one of you gracious forumeers kindly link me to the maths behind the bumping mechanics?

Thank you
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-10-07 19:08:26 UTC
Ship hits other ship, other ship starts pointing in a different direction

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Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-10-07 19:22:37 UTC
Thanks Bunny, I can always count on you for a well thought out and obviously non-troll comment. Honestly though its much more funny when you do it to other people. I know that much much but was hoping to find a mass + velocity / vector or some uch **** so I can theory craft a bumper-boat for good times.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-10-07 19:32:56 UTC
Praxis Ginimic wrote:
Thanks Bunny, I can always count on you for a well thought out and obviously non-troll comment. Honestly though its much more funny when you do it to other people. I know that much much but was hoping to find a mass + velocity / vector or some uch **** so I can theory craft a bumper-boat for good times.


Machariel.

Best mass to velocity ratio.

Now go bump people

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-10-07 19:39:50 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Praxis Ginimic wrote:
Thanks Bunny, I can always count on you for a well thought out and obviously non-troll comment. Honestly though its much more funny when you do it to other people. I know that much much but was hoping to find a mass + velocity / vector or some uch **** so I can theory craft a bumper-boat for good times.


Machariel.

Best mass to velocity ratio.

Now go bump people


What J'Poll said, it's pretty much the best bumping ship.

But I don't think there's any real math other than bigger ship going faster makes impacted ship move more

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-10-07 20:13:01 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
Praxis Ginimic wrote:
Thanks Bunny, I can always count on you for a well thought out and obviously non-troll comment. Honestly though its much more funny when you do it to other people. I know that much much but was hoping to find a mass + velocity / vector or some uch **** so I can theory craft a bumper-boat for good times.


Machariel.

Best mass to velocity ratio.

Now go bump people


What J'Poll said, it's pretty much the best bumping ship.

But I don't think there's any real math other than bigger ship going faster makes impacted ship move more


The best ever bump ship:

A cyno frigate really close to the station and tell the Moros to jump through.

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#7 - 2012-10-07 20:43:22 UTC
As I understand it, it is simple elastic collision between two objects and their collision spheres. Like this: http://demonstrations.wolfram.com/ElasticCollisionsOfTwoSpheres/

It's hard to come up with real "numbers" for it since it is all so fluid and inexact, but it comes down to: the faster and more massive you are, the less you will be deflected. Among optimal combinations of these two factors are the Machariel, the Cynabal, and the Stabber plus its variants.

Keep in mind agility (strong point of the Mach and Cyna) is also important as it determines how well your ship turns and accelerates, which means fewer "misses".

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#8 - 2012-10-07 20:48:26 UTC
Have some more videos about various types of collisions and how they work: http://www.wfu.edu/physics/demolabs/demos/avimov/bychptr/chptr3_energy.htm

Science!

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-10-07 21:59:25 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
Praxis Ginimic wrote:
Thanks Bunny, I can always count on you for a well thought out and obviously non-troll comment. Honestly though its much more funny when you do it to other people. I know that much much but was hoping to find a mass + velocity / vector or some uch **** so I can theory craft a bumper-boat for good times.


Machariel.

Best mass to velocity ratio.

Now go bump people


What J'Poll said, it's pretty much the best bumping ship.

But I don't think there's any real math other than bigger ship going faster makes impacted ship move more


The best ever bump ship:

A cyno frigate really close to the station and tell the Moros to jump through.


I did that to a thanatos Lol

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Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#10 - 2012-10-07 22:47:58 UTC
Stabber with a 800mm plate and MWD.
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Kehro Urgus
Dark Nebula Academy
O X I D E
#11 - 2012-10-08 07:42:12 UTC
KE=KE'

It's really simple.

Yeeee! 
Beckie DeLey
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-10-08 09:51:59 UTC
Speedy thing in, spedy thing out.

My siren's name is Brick and she is the prettiest.
Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-10-08 15:39:51 UTC
Ok. So I'm over complicating this. The reason is that although I don't have much time to play I have a nifty fitting tool for my Android that uses the API to account for skills. I do more theory crafting than blowing stuff up and its honestly almost as much fun for those of us who enjoy the mental exercises.

Fine then. I'll make it simple. I can squeeze a 100MN MWD onto a thorax. It should take something like 35 sec to get all 62k tons up to the full 3.5k m/s but that should make for quite the bump. I'll post orca tears soons.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-10-08 20:36:56 UTC
Praxis Ginimic wrote:
Ok. So I'm over complicating this. The reason is that although I don't have much time to play I have a nifty fitting tool for my Android that uses the API to account for skills. I do more theory crafting than blowing stuff up and its honestly almost as much fun for those of us who enjoy the mental exercises.

Fine then. I'll make it simple. I can squeeze a 100MN MWD onto a thorax. It should take something like 35 sec to get all 62k tons up to the full 3.5k m/s but that should make for quite the bump. I'll post orca tears soons.


Your heart is in the right place Big smile

I used a 100mn mwd on a sleipnir, surprised the hell out of a guy in an amarr HAC that tried to run P

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#15 - 2012-10-09 00:06:49 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
I used a 100mn mwd on a sleipnir, surprised the hell out of a guy in an amarr HAC that tried to run P

Sorry, but this popped into my mind:

[Zaphod] Hey, hey, get this number. Multicluster Quark drive with perspulax running boards! Hey, now this has got to be a Lazlar Lyricon custom job!

[Ford] Hey, I was passed by one of these mothers out by the Axel Nebula. I was going flat out and this thing just strolled past me, the star drive hardly ticked over! It was incredible!

[Zaphod] Too much!

[Ford] Ya, ten seconds later it smashed right into the third moon of Jaglan Beta.

[Zaphod] Hey, right?

[Ford] But a great-looking ship, though. Looks like a fish, moves like a fish, steers like a cow.
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#16 - 2012-10-09 03:05:12 UTC
Mars Theran wrote:
Stabber with a 800mm plate and MWD.


So fitting plates to increase your mass helps you bump more strongly?
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-10-09 04:15:48 UTC
Salpad wrote:
Mars Theran wrote:
Stabber with a 800mm plate and MWD.


So fitting plates to increase your mass helps you bump more strongly?


a little

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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-10-09 07:03:15 UTC
how well would an oracle with a 100MN drive and 3 1600 plates do?