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EVE: Retribution - smallest expansion yet?

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Flamespar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-10-07 02:32:25 UTC
The upcoming Retribution expansion seems pretty light on features. I mean I do understand the need to fix the difficult to understand aggression systems, and to make bounty hunting a viable profession. The updated AI should be nice.

But apart from a couple new ships. Is this really it? Or is there another announcement forthcoming?

I recall it being mentioned at fanfest that we would be getting avatar tattoos this year, but that seems to have been conveniently hushed up.

It seems the days of expansions like Apocrypha and Trinity are long behind us, never to return. Which is a shame. Expansions in EVE have become far less exciting than they used to be. And they certainly don't have the wow factor that expansions like Apocrapha did.

I miss the days when expansions brought a renewed sense of wonder to EVE.
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#2 - 2012-10-07 02:40:15 UTC
Yeah after CCP stated in their last dev blog that that was gonna be their last dev blog till expansion release, I too have felt disappointed with what is coming.

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ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#3 - 2012-10-07 02:55:06 UTC
Still, its content is pretty good/needed

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#4 - 2012-10-07 02:57:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Roll Sizzle Beef
Because avatar arm tattoos are so much more fun than All the rest of the frigs being rebalanced, miner frig to replace those 4 awful empire mining frigs, all destroyers reballanced, new destroyers, all cruisers reballanced, Sansha and Concord V3, New bounty hunting updates, DUST connection, Crimewatch v2, missile/ASB changes. NPC AI, Stabber, Vagabond, Tempest, megathron remodels
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#5 - 2012-10-07 03:01:15 UTC
As long as they don't mess up things, I'd say hey, progress.

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Flamespar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-10-07 03:02:09 UTC
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
Because avatar arm tattoos are so much more fun than All the rest of the frigs being rebalanced, miner frig to replace those 4 awful empire mining frigs, all destroyers reballanced, new destroyers, all cruisers reballanced, Sansha and Concord V3, New bounty hunting updates, DUST connection, Crimewatch v2, missile/ASB changes. NPC AI,


Go to the retribution website .. there are three items there. I don't know where you got the rest from.

Those three items are
Crimewatch V2
Bounty Hunting
A new frig and four new destroyers.

And no. I do not count balancing as new content or even expansion worthy material. It's simply an ongoing activity that needs to be done for a healthy game. I know of no other game that does some re-balancing and calls it an expansion.

Expansions are meant to be just that .. expansions .. as in expanding the game experience. Anything else is just a patch.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#7 - 2012-10-07 03:12:31 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
And no. I do not count balancing as new content or even expansion worthy material. It's simply an ongoing activity that needs to be done for a healthy game. I know of no other game that does some re-balancing and calls it an expansion.

Expansions are meant to be just that .. expansions .. as in expanding the game experience. Anything else is just a patch.

It expands the usefullness of ... torps?

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Tesal
#8 - 2012-10-07 03:14:26 UTC
Seems good to me. CCP has been doing "too much" lately.Ugh
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-10-07 03:18:03 UTC
Tesal wrote:
Seems good to me. CCP has been doing "too much" lately.Ugh


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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#10 - 2012-10-07 03:18:37 UTC
Tesal wrote:
Seems good to me. CCP has been doing "too much" lately.Ugh

I... you might have a good point there.

It's been noted that throwing features on features might not be the best approach. That and of course, we have player-driven content. Haha ~

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Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#11 - 2012-10-07 03:28:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Roll Sizzle Beef
Flamespar wrote:

Go to the retribution website .. there are three items there. I don't know where you got the rest from.


Because expansion pages are never updated with more highlights as expansion draws closer, and expansions are a single release still right?...
Not that those expansion pages were a trove of knowledge anyway.
If you want real info try the test servers and feature & ideas discussions.
Flamespar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-10-07 03:30:13 UTC

I've been thinking that the last 12 months have been a bit of a health check for EVE, where CCP has had to go back to basics and fix the games foundations.

It's not very interesting work, and certainly won't net them many new subscribers (WoW EVE has free expansions that feature exciting tweaks and changes behind the scenes! OMG sign me up), boring (in the extreme) but necessary.
Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-10-07 03:45:37 UTC
don't forget a reworked bounty hunting system (i cant emphasize enough how much that will change)

other possible changes are a new treaty and contract system, according to the CSM minutes team superfriends is working on that, but recent postings sound like these guys are responsible for above mentioned bounty hunting system

ccp karkur has confirmed that she has finished work on a devblog, i have no idea what its going to be about, but there is supposedly a large CCP team working on (new)-player experience, which probably includes a lot of papercut work which will ease the life of everyone playing eve and not just the new players.

we will have another round of work on the factional warfare system, hopefully ending some absolutely terrible mechanics, currently used to farm bazillions of LP
Lord Ryan
True Xero
#14 - 2012-10-07 03:48:23 UTC
well maybe they wont screw anything up this time.

Do not assume anything above this line was typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.
Flamespar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-10-07 03:48:39 UTC
There was also a rumor that we would be getting some new modules .. such as the mythical micro-jump drive
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#16 - 2012-10-07 03:50:49 UTC
Lord Ryan wrote:
well maybe they wont screw anything up this time.

AHAHAhah. *wipes tear*
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#17 - 2012-10-07 03:51:37 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
As long as they don't mess up things, I'd say hey, progress.

From my perspective it looks like they're going to mess up plenty. Oh well, guess I'll stay out here in outer ring.
Oraac Ensor
#18 - 2012-10-07 03:54:56 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
I don't know where you got the rest from.

It's called reading. You should try it some time.
Maddy Joringer
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-10-07 03:59:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Maddy Joringer
* CCP creates feature rich expansion *

players : WAAAA CCP ruined Da game.. Its over ...End is near.... eve is dead !!!

* CCP takes it slow and steady *

players : WAAAAA expansion has no features... Its over ...End is near.... eve is dead !!!


PPP
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#20 - 2012-10-07 04:05:56 UTC
Since you haven't even used any of the existing content, I don't understand why you're demanding more new content.

It's also worth remembering, when you complain about the content in EVE Online being boring, that you are the content. Welcome to the sandbox Big smile

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