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Pipa Porto
#61 - 2012-09-16 21:43:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Pipa Porto
Kell Tarhun wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:


Then why haven't you reported the bots you've clearly uncovered? I don't see why you'd be making such a claim without some evidence to support it, so why not forward said evidence to CCP and solve the problem?


Well thats one of the reasons of this post to let CCP do sth about bot issue.
As you can see bots are pretty much everywhere no mattar of alliance or is it 0.0 low sec or high sec.
They just are.
I see no point crucifing any player that use them or any alliance that use them. Bots are and CCP instead of making official statistics where they are, how many of them, in whitch alliance should PREVENT BOTS TO APPEAR IN GAME.

Otherwise it is pretty much pointless to discuss who got them and blah blah blah....


If you have evidence of botting, report it to CCP. If you have evidence to show that CCP is ignoring definitive evidence of botting, report it on the forums, or on Kugu, EveNews24, or the like (Kugu would probably love you longtime if you provided them with a scandal like that).

Of course, you're not going to do either, because I strongly suspect that your "evidence" is "well everybody knows they..."

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#62 - 2012-09-16 23:04:07 UTC
no but the bots are for me

Spaceprincess

People who put passwords on char bazaar Eveboards are the worst.
Cede Forster
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#63 - 2012-09-16 23:43:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Cede Forster
Pipa Porto wrote:
Kell Tarhun wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:


Then why haven't you reported the bots you've clearly uncovered? I don't see why you'd be making such a claim without some evidence to support it, so why not forward said evidence to CCP and solve the problem?


Well thats one of the reasons of this post to let CCP do sth about bot issue.
As you can see bots are pretty much everywhere no mattar of alliance or is it 0.0 low sec or high sec.
They just are.
I see no point crucifing any player that use them or any alliance that use them. Bots are and CCP instead of making official statistics where they are, how many of them, in whitch alliance should PREVENT BOTS TO APPEAR IN GAME.

Otherwise it is pretty much pointless to discuss who got them and blah blah blah....


If you have evidence of botting, report it to CCP. If you have evidence to show that CCP is ignoring definitive evidence of botting, report it on the forums, or on Kugu, EveNews24, or the like (Kugu would probably love you longtime if you provided them with a scandal like that).

Of course, you're not going to do either, because I strongly suspect that your "evidence" is "well everybody knows they..."


probably because it was a love bot - no one would want to embarrass themselves by showing the evidence around for that
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#64 - 2012-09-17 02:33:00 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Katran Luftschreck wrote:

Does anyone honestly believe that there is even one 23/7 Alliance border gatecamp in operation that isn't entirely manned by bots?


Every once in a while it's fun to just quote a post of a person who has absolutely no idea what they are talking about.

Hint: The only semi permanent gatecamp that I've seen in action on any alliance boarder is the EC- gatecamp, and it's not run by bots, it's run by idiots.


I have to quibble here. The EC- camp is funded by idiots. It's persecuted by the people able to prey on idiots.


That's the same thing I said. Most of the people at EC- are in "Special Snowflake" crap, so when it blows up the vast majority of the cost comes out of pocket. They basically sit there to troll no risk free kills (And screw up often).
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#65 - 2012-09-17 02:36:32 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
General Nusense wrote:
Goons run so many bots its unbelievable.


Then why haven't you reported the bots you've clearly uncovered? I don't see why you'd be making such a claim without some evidence to support it, so why not forward said evidence to CCP and solve the problem?


Because those aren't bots. Anyone who's ever gone bot hunting knows how to spot bot behavior. It's easier to just cast aspersions then it is to put your own ass on the line via false reporting.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#66 - 2012-09-17 02:43:45 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
General Nusense wrote:
Goons run so many bots its unbelievable.

Then why haven't you reported the bots you've clearly uncovered? I don't see why you'd be making such a claim without some evidence to support it, so why not forward said evidence to CCP and solve the problem?

Because those aren't bots. Anyone who's ever gone bot hunting knows how to spot bot behavior. It's easier to just cast aspersions then it is to put your own ass on the line via false reporting.

Their ass, huh. Risking your ass to fight goons...

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SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#67 - 2012-09-17 02:45:21 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
General Nusense wrote:
Goons run so many bots its unbelievable.

Then why haven't you reported the bots you've clearly uncovered? I don't see why you'd be making such a claim without some evidence to support it, so why not forward said evidence to CCP and solve the problem?

Because those aren't bots. Anyone who's ever gone bot hunting knows how to spot bot behavior. It's easier to just cast aspersions then it is to put your own ass on the line via false reporting.

Their ass, huh. Risking your ass to fight goons...


Ever met Generaldisturbed?
Pipa Porto
#68 - 2012-09-17 02:49:12 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
That's the same thing I said. Most of the people at EC- are in "Special Snowflake" crap, so when it blows up the vast majority of the cost comes out of pocket. They basically sit there to troll no risk free kills (And screw up often).


When I was around there, we rarely lost ships camping around EC-. I suppose times have changed.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Pipa Porto
#69 - 2012-09-17 02:50:31 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
General Nusense wrote:
Goons run so many bots its unbelievable.


Then why haven't you reported the bots you've clearly uncovered? I don't see why you'd be making such a claim without some evidence to support it, so why not forward said evidence to CCP and solve the problem?


Because those aren't bots. Anyone who's ever gone bot hunting knows how to spot bot behavior. It's easier to just cast aspersions then it is to put your own ass on the line via false reporting.


I know that. I was asking those questions as a rhetorical device to point out the fact that the good General is very much full of it.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#70 - 2012-09-17 02:51:29 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
SmilingVagrant wrote:
That's the same thing I said. Most of the people at EC- are in "Special Snowflake" crap, so when it blows up the vast majority of the cost comes out of pocket. They basically sit there to troll no risk free kills (And screw up often).


When I was around there, we rarely lost ships camping around EC-. I suppose times have changed.


Probably haven't changed much. I said they wanted those kills. I never said they got them :sun:

It's occasionally fun to tromp down to EC- and shoot stuff, but most of the time it's boring as hell, and anyone that does show up to fight is in something organized enough to kill whoever is camping with you.

I keep a sniping ship there so I can bounce perches and kill dictors and stuff. But I haven't been there in half a year save when passing through... so v0v.
Rosewalker
Khumaak Flying Circus
#71 - 2012-09-17 06:25:13 UTC
Sugar Kyle wrote:
I am interested to learn more about this invis bot that occupies systems with me when I am the only one in local. Will it gank me? PvP bots?


You're safe. They only attack people in faction warfare since they are worth LP P

The Nosy Gamer - CCP Random: "hehe, falls under the category: nice try, but no. ;)"
Rosewalker
Khumaak Flying Circus
#72 - 2012-09-17 06:28:07 UTC
KIller Wabbit wrote:
Those tears are so old they've all dried up. We need monthly evidence that CCP is staying after this. It's been all quiet on this front for months.


I would think that people would get tired of bot tears by now.

The Nosy Gamer - CCP Random: "hehe, falls under the category: nice try, but no. ;)"
Yolanta Geezenstack
GWA Corp
#73 - 2012-09-17 09:04:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Yolanta Geezenstack
Kell Tarhun wrote:
Question to player base and CCP.
1 How you see situation with bots on your own?
2 Is there going to be any change in current CCP policy against bots.
3 Do you personally care that most boting players got endless amount of isk and they do not care to loose ships while you got problems to get isk for anything.
4 How long alliances will be allowed to get isk from bot activity for " ship reimbursement" programs? Considering all current 0.0 alliances are doing this (tip.: it is just a matter of hiding and "washing" isk gained by bots for example: renting, solo kills of ibis with 200 plexes, lotteries and way more)
5 is Eve becoming better or worse in your eyes?


Oh, a player-survey, I love surveys, they are so democratic! Roll

1. Hm, what do you mean? If I own bots? No, I don't own any bots. Do I see a problem with bots? Can't say I have seen any in the low-sec region I mostly hang out, but maybe I am too dumb to recognize them.
2. Hm, better to ask CCP then a player I guess.
3. No, I don't care - most of the time I have fun earning the ISK I need for ships I lose (and I lose often... Roll ).
4. Again, propably better to ask CCP, I don't have a clue.
5. Only here for a few months, in those months nothing changed, I still like the game.

Sorry, guess I wasn't really an helpful contribution to your survey. What?


Kell Tarhun wrote:
As you can see bots are pretty much everywhere


I like this little psychotic touch. Big smile
Kell Tarhun
Neptunis
#74 - 2012-10-06 15:15:46 UTC
Made same clean up in my old corp - there is always consequence of reporting bots. Don't expect flowers and chocolates!
Awesome refreshing feeling - no longer among botters .
RAGE QU1T
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#75 - 2012-10-06 15:25:31 UTC
"All this has happened before, and all this will happen again"
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#76 - 2012-10-06 16:22:02 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
According to CCP security at Fanfest 2012, The Forge alone had more bots then all of nullsec put together
Spots #2 all the way to #12 were all highsec regions as well.

hth


What they didn't tell you, was that was in Jita. Smile
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Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#77 - 2012-10-06 16:28:27 UTC
Question to player base and CCP.

1 How you see situation with bots on your own? I haven't seen much f anything lately. Don't get out much.

2 Is there going to be any change in current CCP policy against bots. How would I know.

3 Do you personally care that most boting players got endless amount of isk and they do not care to loose ships while you got problems to get isk for anything. zubzubzubzubzub

4 How long alliances will be allowed to get isk from bot activity for " ship reimbursement" programs? Considering all current 0.0 alliances are doing this (tip.: it is just a matter of hiding and "washing" isk gained by bots for example: renting, solo kills of ibis with 200 plexes, lotteries and way more) Again, no idea, and that's assuming you are even remotely accurate in you hypothesis.

5 is Eve becoming better or worse in your eyes? Better, but it has nothing to do with, "bots, or no bots."
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