Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I have no idea why are people talking about movement of the attacker and target in relation to the missile range. The range of a missile, defined as the maximum distance the missile travels from the moment of launch to when it dissipates in space, is always fixed for a given pilot and ship loadout. Unlike turrets, my target can move out of my range while my missile is in flight, but that doesn't mean my range changes.

For example, let's say that with my skills and my fit my missiles travel at 5 km/s and last in space for 10 seconds. Let's also say that they lose 5 km due to needing to accelerate (this is given by the physics engine, and again unaffected by the movement of anything). This means that a missile will always travel 45 km, not more, not less. If the poor sod sitting 40 km away from me realizes that he's got missiles coming his way, and manages to burn to 50 km away from me, he will not get hit. But that still doesn't make the distance my missiles actually travelled any less (or more) than 45 km!

That's not true and you know it, but even if it were true that wouldn't make the information useless.

Knowing your target is definitely out of range can sometimes be more important then being a little unsure that they are in range. For example, when timing the decloaking of a stealthbomber.

In other words, you still have not come up with a compelling, sound and logical argument why this shouldn't be implemented, you are still arguing pedantry.

Exactly....

Personally, I dont' even care if I still have to do the multiplication.

The major issue here, expecially with short range missiles, is the "fudge factor" that is missile acceleration time.

Now, would I like to be able to see my EXACT range on a stationary target without doing any math....Sure...

However, i'm willing to deal with the math as long as the bs random acceleration time is already factored into my flight speed.

Honestly, this isn't that hard to do and there are 2 options to clear is up.

1) Reduce the flight speed to show ACTUAL range when the multiplication is done, which basically means, reduced DISPLAYED missile range, but not reducing their actual range.

2) Boost missile flight time and speed but do not show the added numbers under the info. These would basically be hidden caculation numbers that the players wouldn't see. It's just there so that missiles will go the actual range that is currently displayed.

Now, when it comes to these 2 choices, it's obvious that missile pilots would prefer option 2 so that, like turret pilots, we'll be able to get the range that we've been displaying for years.

However, any pilot flying a ship with torps has been used to this "fudge factor" for some time now, so if CCP went with option one in order to avoid the QQ of other pilots, we'd be willing to accept this reduction in displayed range, because we already know it's the same range we've always been getting, but now we dont' have to do the fudge math ourselves.

So again, whether you choose the not so good option for missile pilots, or the good for missile pilots option.

It doesn't matter, we're just tired of the fudge.

And in my personal opinion, I'm rather disapointed that CCP never thought to factor acceleration time from the beginning.
It was literally the difference of a displayed number that had no actual effect on the missiles themselves.

Seriously, it's a cosmetic number. Either adjust the number, or rework missiles to give us displayed range. Either way, missile pilots will be happy to kill off the fudge factor.

Missiles have "Flight time" and this is why.

I vote you stop posting terrible ideas in the subforum.

Assumptions are fun amirite?

My main uses missiles primarily. People have already stated why this idea is terrible.

But really, almost every one of your threads shows a failure to understand fundamental game mechanics.

Do you even play Eve?

My main is on vacation. I am Emperor Salazar. And you are not very bright.

…minus acceleration time.

You're missing that max flight distance is not quite the same thing as “range” in the way the game handles that particular measurement for everything else in the game. We're not even talking about flying in and out of range — we're talking about catching a target that is, in absolute terms, very close by.

It's just the wrong term, that's all.
Its range most certainly changes — its max flight distance does not. The trick in figuring one out from the other lies in understanding whether the flight distance will be enough to cover the range to the target.

And so, because if you fire a cruise missile at an interceptor it will do this, all range information on every missile is completely useless and thus not worth 2 hours of developer time to fix?

You are bad at arguments man, just stop.

Off topic posts removed.

Please stay on topic, thank you!