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How to fit and fly a crow
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Yan Turok
Black Eagle Ward
#1 - 2011-10-15 11:58:31 UTC
Im looking into flying a crow interceptor I will be using it for solo PvP in low sec and maybe some ratting when im board.
My question is, how should I fit it and what are some good tactics

-also was thinking about a worm as well

thx for any replies
SMT008
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2011-10-15 23:47:22 UTC  |  Edited by: SMT008
A Crow is pretty simple to use/fly.

First, don't engage on gates for obvious reasons.

Second, fit light missiles (The long range version of small missile launchers, called "standard missile launchers" I think).

Orbit at 23km, rain death, and enjoy killing the target while it can't touch/shoot/dowhateverthetargetsaresupposedtodo at that range and speed.

Basicly that's it. You're fast, long range. You wanna kite target as much as you possibly can.

Quote:
[Crow, PVP Crow]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Damage Control II

Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
Warp Disruptor II
Small Shield Extender II

Standard Missile Launcher II, Sabretooth Fury Light Missile
Standard Missile Launcher II, Sabretooth Fury Light Missile
Standard Missile Launcher II, Sabretooth Fury Light Missile
[empty high slot]

Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I



Might look stupid to experienced crow users but that's what I mixed up in a few seconds on EFT. You're fscking fast, you can shoot at 57km with no problem, however, you'll do crap DPS. The small buffer is incase some drones manage to shoot at you somehow.

EDIT : If you happen to have some fleet bonuses (a mindliked claymore or a loki), you can basicly shoot at things and tackle them at 33.3k. Up to 50km with a repfleet disruptor and overload. I would not fit those on a paperthin ship, but hey, eft warrioring.
Sverige Pahis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2011-10-16 07:15:12 UTC
SMT008 wrote:
A Crow is pretty simple to use/fly.

First, don't engage on gates for obvious reasons.

Second, fit light missiles (The long range version of small missile launchers, called "standard missile launchers" I think).

Orbit at 23km, rain death, and enjoy killing the target while it can't touch/shoot/dowhateverthetargetsaresupposedtodo at that range and speed.

Basicly that's it. You're fast, long range. You wanna kite target as much as you possibly can.

Quote:
[Crow, PVP Crow]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Damage Control II

Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
Warp Disruptor II
Small Shield Extender II

Standard Missile Launcher II, Sabretooth Fury Light Missile
Standard Missile Launcher II, Sabretooth Fury Light Missile
Standard Missile Launcher II, Sabretooth Fury Light Missile
[empty high slot]

Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I



Might look stupid to experienced crow users but that's what I mixed up in a few seconds on EFT. You're fscking fast, you can shoot at 57km with no problem, however, you'll do crap DPS. The small buffer is incase some drones manage to shoot at you somehow.

EDIT : If you happen to have some fleet bonuses (a mindliked claymore or a loki), you can basicly shoot at things and tackle them at 33.3k. Up to 50km with a repfleet disruptor and overload. I would not fit those on a paperthin ship, but hey, eft warrioring.


They lock nowhere near as far though.
Dradius Calvantia
Lip Shords
#4 - 2011-10-16 07:42:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Dradius Calvantia
The short answer...

Don't

The crow is not a great interceptor to start with.. and there are not many targets that any interceptor can successfully engage. If you absolutely must solo in an inty, I suggest the Taranis. There are a couple good dual prop, or rail fits. If kitting out side of scram range is what you want to do.. then go navy slicer. It can do something like 200 dps at max point range.
Taram Caldar
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
#5 - 2011-10-16 17:43:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Taram Caldar
There are a couple nice rocket fits for the crow but, in general, I prefer to use an interceptor from almost any other race. Caldari Inties are kind of 'Meh' unfortunately. They have entirely too much mass and, as such, are slower than their counterparts. If all you can fly is caldari the crow works pretty well rocket fit since they fixed rockets. I'd still recommend taking a few days to cross train to another race's inty though.

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IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
#6 - 2011-10-17 10:19:29 UTC
3 X Standard Missile Launcher II

Warp disruptor II
'Balmer' Tracking Disruptor
Coreli C-type MWD

Nanofibre II
2 Overdrive injector II

ROF and DMG rigs, or others to taste

Chuck on some loki boosts and orbit at around 30KM anything with guns won't be hitting you can you can easily pull 6-7Km/s so very few ships can catch you. just gotta take care of your capacitor


Basically anything without a web / scam bonus shouldn't be able to catch you, even with loki boosts. Faster drams can still be an issue if you don't get time to heat your MWD.
vorneus
Hub2
#7 - 2011-10-17 12:31:23 UTC  |  Edited by: vorneus
Some good comments above.

The long range kiting setup is the safest way to fit a crow (no longer the only way since rockets got their buff). It's pretty much 'easy mode' PvP for interceptors since you'll enjoy a moderate success (provided you don't moronically engage everything you come across) by just orbiting and activating all your modules.

You will, however, die to a well skilled pilot in a better interceptor or pirate/faction frig. This includes (but is not limited to) Claws, Maledictions (they're better than you think), Worms, Slicers, Drams, DD's, etc.

So yeah, Crow isn't the best choice for interceptor PvP, but as with all of them it has good GTFO ability and you can happily orbit a lot of ships and lob missiles slowly at them without any fear of being hit/caught (particularly with a TD fitted). For example, a rail Ranis should certainly not be able to hit you what with the state of rails right now and technically shouldn't be able to catch you either.

-Ed

This one time, I like, totally did some stuff.
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#8 - 2011-10-17 13:30:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Bad Messenger
SMT008 wrote:
A Crow is pretty simple to use/fly.

First, don't engage on gates for obvious reasons.

Second, fit light missiles (The long range version of small missile launchers, called "standard missile launchers" I think).

Orbit at 23km, rain death, and enjoy killing the target while it can't touch/shoot/dowhateverthetargetsaresupposedtodo at that range and speed.

Basicly that's it. You're fast, long range. You wanna kite target as much as you possibly can.

Quote:
[Crow, PVP Crow]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Damage Control II

Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
Warp Disruptor II
Small Shield Extender II

Standard Missile Launcher II, Sabretooth Fury Light Missile
Standard Missile Launcher II, Sabretooth Fury Light Missile
Standard Missile Launcher II, Sabretooth Fury Light Missile
[empty high slot]

Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I



Might look stupid to experienced crow users but that's what I mixed up in a few seconds on EFT. You're fscking fast, you can shoot at 57km with no problem, however, you'll do crap DPS. The small buffer is incase some drones manage to shoot at you somehow.

EDIT : If you happen to have some fleet bonuses (a mindliked claymore or a loki), you can basicly shoot at things and tackle them at 33.3k. Up to 50km with a repfleet disruptor and overload. I would not fit those on a paperthin ship, but hey, eft warrioring.



Small shield extender is useless, it does not give much shield but makes you signature radius bigger, if you want to use shield extender use medium for frigates.

Missile type is also bad, crow gets bonus for kinetic damage and if i recall right rage missiles makes you signature bigger again.

So i recomend to use caldari navy blood claw missiles as primary choice.
Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
#9 - 2011-10-17 15:43:30 UTC
I like the armour brawl fits :P

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Marz Ghola
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2011-10-17 18:21:15 UTC

Crow is not that bad. I build them more for speed as my ships would easily catch the above mentioned fit.

I have only ever seen rocket crows die quickly too.

One option is to have a sebo for the 3rd mid, be sure to have both scripts. Then you can lock fast, but if situations warrant, you can then take advantage of its ability to hit past 50k by switching to targeting range script. This occurs when the inty has no more value and your fleet ships have spread their long point around. Just orbit gate, follow primary's and wait for something to warp in like a sniper/ecm type ships
BolsterBomb
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2011-10-17 20:41:03 UTC  |  Edited by: BolsterBomb
I love the crow. I fly it, I die in it and I kill in it.

The fit you will want to use is:

3 x arb std missles

mse
meta 4 mwd
long point

nano
2x aux power

rigs:

small aux thruster
shield extender / small bay accelerating loader


You will orbit around 18-19k other wise youll lose point. youll be flying around 4.4-4.6k m/s

You can kill pretty much anything with close guns just watch out for good pilots that can rubber band you.

You are not a "hold point" interceptor if you want to point stuff for fleet get a raptor.

Stilletos are awesome to kill with this.

Fly in low sec or heavy frig areas.


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edit

If you use ab go rocket fit but not this fit clearly.

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