EVE General Discussion

When Dust gets a PC conversion... then this game will register on an emotional level.

Until then, I support other people having fun with it. Expand the Universe, bring life and war to planets. No complaints.

Gawd. Now dare this beta group you via corp due to location on earth to have better testing experience. Or be limited to specific suit mixtures so people wont be spread out over a bunch of redundant suits when you only need to test the base scout suit stats rather than caldari scout, minmitar scout, amarr scout... Minmitars only race to have and be logi? Yeah, that's going to happen.
Even after launch I doubt all the art will be provided. The only buildings anyone has seen in Dust are Caldari. Why? Because art is not gameplay.

The only thing to really be concerned about is weapons. Don't think they are going for a sidearm/med/heavy weapon system for every race for default setups.

Yet its as complete as EvE 1.0 was. So there are still tons of things to add later. I think too many treat it as a normal title that is tossed out at 90% feature complete then wait for DLC to complete it. It's really more like 20% feature complete and hope to see it expanded on for the next 5-8 years. Just like EvE, its basically a open beta for the rest of it's lifespan.

I don't care what it looks like.
Just call it dropsuit instead of Gallente...I was stating it ruined the EVE feel.
Why would an Amarr loyalist be caught wearing their enemies uniform?

Also, Dust only has art so far. The game play is less pleasurable than sticking barbed wire up your ****.

I'm in the non-PS3 camp. I dont own a PS3 and I'm not buying one just to play DUST. If I cant play it, why should I have any interest in it? There is a part of me that is a bit mad that CCP decided to make DUST for the PS3 instead of the PC where their playerbase is. On the other hand, I understand it is easier to code for the PS3 and its standard hardware than it is to code for a PC game and the gazillion different hardware devices it may have so I can see both sides of that arguement and I understand why it was made.

I am disappointed in the lack of interaction that DUST will have with EVE. It would be awesome if you could send in some DUST players to blow up a POS or have some real impact in PVP rather than just PI. Some ideas that are probably not going to make it in but would also be cool:

1. DUST players could setup a planetary beacon that shows specific corp/alliance ships on the tactical map even if they are out of targeting range.
2. DUST players could setup some planetary monitoring device to show how many corp/alliance ships are in a specific system so a rival could decide where and when to attack. Might eliminate the need for cloaked scouts
3. Alliances could pay DUST players to defend or guard systems or attack the structures mentioned above
4. DUST players could build a planetary weapon to shoot some kind of doomsday thing once per 24 hours. Imagine you send in a DUST group to build it so its ready on the eve of your invasion into someones territory.

You get the idea, some real interaction between the games.

Posts have been removed because they were in breach of forum rules. Making personal attacks, posting rumours and anything else that is against the rules will pretty much ensure that said post is removed and/or edited. This is done in order to try and keep some semblance of a discussion going, rather than allowing it to degrade into petty personal arguments or ending with the thread being locked.

Decent, sensible discussion is openly welcomed here, and everyone is entitled to their opinions. What they are not "entitled" to is hurling personal insults at other players or CCP and their staff. So lets see if we can continue with this topic sans the rule breaking

Quite excited, even when I don't play it myself, imo. Dust will either be :
- The rise of Eve, a huge influx of new players, exciting new stuff will happen in Eve... if it is successful
- A major loss for both (not just DUST itself) if it is actually crappy or not enough people actually play the game, even scarier since CCP seemed to have committed a major amount of resources and investment for the development

Well then I imagine it will be better, until Sony kills it by doing something stupid

The lack of interaction is only based around what's been officially announced for launch, how do you know these features won't be put in at some point in the future? Why do you assume PI will be the only thing affected? That's just very closed minded in my opinion and seems to a pretty consistent theme among the posts in this thread, people are only concerned about EVE because its all they know, or they don't have a PS3 and feel that bashing CCP is the way to correct it. Not a very good number of people seem to be considering the possibilitys this could bring and are not looking at the big picture which is ironic considering EVE is all about the big picture unless you're all only interested in mining in your little belts and i hope that's not the case.

@ISD TYPE40: I would appreciate it if you didn't delete any rumors or speculation, it's kinda the whole point of the thread.

I tested it but left with the same thoughts i went into it with:

Its a little like C&C Renegade (could have been great but wasnt and only appealed to a small niche market) - great concept and similar gameplay. Its worth noting that C&C Renegade killed the software house that produced the C&C series and allowed EA the leverage to take the franchise over, follwed swiftly by EA going all EA with it and killing that side of the game also!

Is this a fair comparison with Dust? Possibly, it depends entirely on how much CCP have invested in Dust but:

#tinfoil: Sony releasing Planetside. If CCP crashes and burns on Dust, Sony step in, buy CCP, close CCP, sell more Planetside!! Hehe.

on a more serious note im too old to learn how to shoot people with a console pad. Give me mouse and keyboard everyday. I represent my generation id say. The younger guys that can happily headshot you 2000 yards away with a ps3 pad......well these people LIKE modern warfare 2 and 3. They have no concept of a high quality shooter. They want a perk that fires a nuclear bomb killing eveyone on the map and a perk that helicoptors in a support team for them or DAMMIT they just wont play.

I found the game appealing but I would only play it on PC.

If it impacts too much on the EvE playerbase? My answer there would be go look at the monument in Jita: these are not players you want to anger heh.

Probably not gonna buy a PS3 just to play it, but I'm still looking forward to it. Hope it does well.