EVE General Discussion

If this is [True] then: FINALLY !!

Now, nerf/burn to the ground OGB+flag (assistance) and things will get interesting.

ITT: people that think PvP is "a style of gameplay" and also "shooting someone else."

(it's not)

Then steal via contracts, trading and espionage. you know, things that don't cause flags.

Unless the crime itself extended past state lines (cybercrimes have made this much easier to do) the person would need to be extradited in order to be prosecuted

I may print this onto a stick and beat people with it until they agree with me.

In some states, yes

In the words of certain Alabama law enforcement people...

"Aim for the leg, if you miss oh well"

and "If you shoot him on your porch, drag him inside before we get there"

As I said, it was a loose comparison. In real life, many countries allow its citizens to perform a citizens arrest allowing for the detention, with use of reasonable force, of suspected criminals. The equivalent in EVE gets you shot at. Hopefully I've cleared that up for you.

Real life analogies have never convinced anyone of anything ever

The reason that stealing flags you to everyone is pretty simple: there's not an obviously better solution that doesn't add a ton of complexity. We're kicking around the idea of replacing the suspect flag with an LE in this case, but it's making my spider-sense tingle, and in any case we want to use LEs as little as we can possibly get away with because they make the situation inherently less readable than global flags. We'll have a proper look at it in a couple of weeks when we have time to do a full exploration, but there's a good chance the current plan will go ahead, because it's simple and it's good enough for most of the cases we care about.

You mean when the player base can test the code in client and find 25 play cases that can be exploited
When is this code going to be playable any way, all Goliath says is no sooner then the 19th every time I ask

I wonder why everyone is only talking about this in the context of highsec gankers... Who cares? I mean is there anyone out there that actually does piracy or gatecamps or hunts pirates that actually thinks the new crimewatch is a bad idea? It's going to give us a lot of new situations to deal with in lowsec, I'll tell you.

So when I'm sitting cloaked in Tama on Nour gate waiting to ninja someone who dies, there's already a lot going on. You'll have caldari FW guys on the gate. They generally don't enguage anyone b/c of the GCC save WTs. If pirates come in they jump away. There'sll be some Gallente FW people floating around or cloaked at a distance trying to draw caldari off gate. They won't attack any non-WTs either b/c then they might not be able to jump. There are packs of pirates just trying to land in the middle of as many ships as possible. They'll attack anything they can hit. There'll be some neutral guys watching and maybe a few guys that are "good guys" going after pirates (as long as they outnumber the pirates otherwise they are outta there). Lot of different motivations for holding fire or whatever there. The new crimewatch will bring us other "states" of aggression as well as change the damage output and behavior of gate guns (and station guns I assume). The potential combinations of "aggression states" at standoffs by lowsec gates (just for example cuz' it's what I know) will increase, leading to more possible outcomes. We can come up with new gameplay here is the long and short of it. ...maybe actually get some real changes to player behavior. I mean... when's the last time that actually happened? I think we'll wake up one morning in early December and lowsec is going to be a whole new ballgame.