Ships & Modules

I guess Industry wasn't the crowd to ask, so I've reformulated the question for the Ships crew. You're free to read the overall context in the link, but for those that live and play in low security space:

Are you flying fitted ships into the area from a safe dock in high, or are you buying and selling modules and parts locally in low? Obviously it depends on where you're at, what the action's like, and whether you need replacements quick, but generally.

Appreciate the response, J'as. Good to hear from someone who's in the middle of it. Though this is clearly a dangerous proposition, I'm glad to hear there might be a reason for me to do it besides just the "woo" of blockade running.

I imagined that might be the case. I have yet to do much more than cursory recon in the low areas around my mission hub, so I'm interested to see if people there are operating in a similar manner.

That I can believe. I think one problem could be that people in many areas are used to not having many items at hand in the local market, and are experienced at moving things in and out enough that they can wait on a supply run to high. I like your experimental approach.

I buy almost all of my stuff in Dodixie or Hek. Then again, I've imported ... 5-10 bil worth of **** into Amamake so I very rarely have to buy anything at all.

-Liang

An interesting exercise at the very least. No trouble believing the turnover in Hek is much higher. That tracks with my hypothesis at least: even with 50 bil in inventory at hand there's not enough buyers to really sustain such an effort. My concept of hauling small cargo bays full of mundane items would seem to pale in comparison.

Point of interest: Were you running with a full crew, escorts and cyno scouts for the freighters and all? Did you ever run into looters?

From the posts in this thread I cant but help to think that low sec as a whole and especially traders and manufacturers could benefit from a different approach to sell and buy orders than what exists in high sec.

Could a system work where the price for selling and buying is set by taking the average for all sell and buy transactions that has taken place in the entire high sec the day before (ok, plenty of data, but I am sure a simpler way of doing it can be found, just a athought here).

If someone whats to sell something in low (or high and null for that matter) one can use the normal way of doing so by placing buy and sell orders, or by clicking the button "automatically put item up for sale at average priceing". You would not get any isk until someon actually bought the item. The benefits are that you could supply a low sec market hub with many different modules and ships without "wasting" sell orders on it. Of course, if you want to sell your own stuff quicker you can just put it up for sale at a lower price than the standard one.

Buying would work the same way. Any missioner or explorere could put their gained items up for the automatic sale and just wait till some industrious fella came past in a transportation ship and bought it all.


Just a quick idea that popped into my head (and yes, some might see it as dumbing down eve, but my idea would not be useful in the busy highsec trade hubs anyway as people is constantly undercutting each other there, it would be a way to get the trading going all over eve).

Some of us in industry answered your question! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2000963#post2000963

Volume is the issue in low sec. It is so low that it is not really profitable to sell there full time and make a living. For example, I can sell 100 frigate/destroyer hulls in a trade hub such as Amarr of Rens in a few hours. It would take several weeks to do the same in a low sec system (and this is selling near Faction Warfare systems where the level of PvP is highest). The actual profit per item I make in low sec may be higher because I can charge a premium but ultimately the rate of turnover in Amarr or Rens means that I make far more profit over the same time period just because I am selling so much more.

Unfortunately, selling low sec is a low value/higher risk proposition for many industrialists and I don't think any of the ideas CCP are considering will ever change that.

I live in Heild most of a time and nearest trade hub (and hisec system) is Teonusude merely 2 jumps away. But direct connection between Teon and Heild is Bosena where Sard Caid of RANSM setup nice shop. I basically fully fitted my hound there for example exception being hull itself bought in Teon. I have quite a big stash of mods and gunz in Heild already from last year shopping but whenever I'm short on something be that ammo, scripts, whatever - I can find it in Bosena. And price difference is usually not high enough to make my do that one more jump into hisec. Because I am lazy as fu*k and let's be honest - better spend few grands/mils ISK more, save travel time and extend time of blowing stuff up (usually it's my stuff but meh...).

It doesn't work. We stocked Frerstorn with 50 billion worth of stuff from frig to capital. There pretty much wasn't a ship you couldn't buy and fit in the bottom station of Frerstorn. We heavily publicized it in the militia chat channels, in Crime & Punishment, and in local. It simply wasn't worth the time and effort. More importantly, it wasn't worth having a character sit in Metropolis wasting all those precious market order slots. You've only got a few hundred per character and you've gotta make the best of them.

-Liang