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Impossible Killmail is "API verified"?

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Beat General
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-10-02 13:48:58 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Suvetar
I've just seen a kill mail that shows the death of a chimera that has 8 mids and 8 lows? Fake!

Oh wait, its "API verified"? What.

So does that mean that API verified doesn't mean **** now? Anybody can make up killmails and they get API verified somehow.

LOL.

Edit: Removed actual killboard link - ISD Suvetar.
Sverige Pahis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-10-02 13:49:42 UTC
Stop being stupid, it's a bug from when the carrier refits during combat
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2012-10-02 13:50:45 UTC
It's a killboard issue. There was a Tengu in the dude's ship bay.

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lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#4 - 2012-10-02 13:52:23 UTC
ever heard of SMB ? also you stupid?

Spaceprincess

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Beat General
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-10-02 13:59:22 UTC
Sverige Pahis wrote:
Stop being stupid, it's a bug from when the carrier refits during combat


Why would a carrier refit a small shield booster? Stop being stupid.

Adoro
FinFleet
Northern Coalition.
#6 - 2012-10-02 14:02:42 UTC
You do realize eve-kill.net is not a CCP product right? And API verified is not something CCP made up...?
Lykouleon
Noble Sentiments
Second Empire.
#7 - 2012-10-02 14:04:17 UTC
Beat General wrote:
Why would a carrier refit a small shield booster? Stop being stupid.

Sir, you imply all people in EVE actually know how to correctly fit ships.

Sir, you are wrong. Hilariously wrong.

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Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#8 - 2012-10-02 14:05:52 UTC
Your an idiot, He's an Idiot, She's an idiot... Everyones an Idiot.... Ah the eve forums.

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Beat General
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-10-02 14:07:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Beat General
Lykouleon wrote:
Beat General wrote:
Why would a carrier refit a small shield booster? Stop being stupid.

Sir, you imply all people in EVE actually know how to correctly fit ships.

Sir, you are wrong. Hilariously wrong.


Even the dumbest eve player will realize that a small shield booster doesn't do **** for a capital class vessel.

I refuse to believe that somebody who has trained to carrier doesn't understand what a small shield booster is for.

Fugazi KM.
ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
#10 - 2012-10-02 14:55:36 UTC
Hi Folks,

I've looked into this a bit and decided to re-open this thread with the request that people please remember the rules about not linking to kills here.

I've actually just download the API Verified mod to see what it does, and it's not all that complex.

All it does is assure that the Kill ID is a valid Kill ID via the API interface, it doesn't (and daresay can't) check that the fit or the items were valid or not.

So there's no real mystery, API Verified means that the Killmail did indeed come from the EVE API, nothing else.

Hope this helps,
Thanks and fly safe.

[b]ISD Suvetar Captain/Commando Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department[/b]

Jim Era
#11 - 2012-10-02 15:41:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Jim Era
wat

I have wondered, are you supposed to upload the killmail of yourself?

Wat™

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#12 - 2012-10-02 15:47:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Petrus Blackshell
ISD Suvetar wrote:

All it does is assure that the Kill ID is a valid Kill ID via the API interface, it doesn't (and daresay can't) check that the fit or the items were valid or not.

So there's no real mystery, API Verified means that the Killmail did indeed come from the EVE API, nothing else.

Having done some killmail parsing work, the "mail" itself differentiates between fitted and non-fitted items by adding "(Cargo)" after the item if it is not fitted. To create the fitting "image", killboards simply take a list of mods that do not have "(Cargo)" after their name, and slap them on an empty ship template. The killmail in question for this thread did indeed have all of the modules showing up without a "(Cargo)" afterwards, so it doesn't look like an error on the killboard's side.

Perhaps this should be reported as a bug?

Ed: If the killmail "did indeed come from the EVE API", then that lends more credence to this being a bug or weird anomaly.

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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
#13 - 2012-10-02 16:24:02 UTC
I believe it is a bug, but not one with EVE or the API.

I've looked at the raw killmail and these items were destroyed (no doubt from that carrier hangar)

Tengu
Onyx
Prorator
Tormentor
Guardian
Legion
Drake

All of those ships were fitted, hence having no (Cargo) line against the destroyed item.

[b]ISD Suvetar Captain/Commando Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department[/b]

Lord Ryan
True Xero
#14 - 2012-10-02 18:07:39 UTC
thread sucks without that link

Do not assume anything above this line was typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.

Beat General
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-10-06 09:08:06 UTC
Lord Ryan wrote:
thread sucks without that link


Agree.
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
#16 - 2012-10-06 10:02:31 UTC
Copy the original mail, post the mail in the OP. It's permitted to post the mail if you remove the name of the victim
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#17 - 2012-10-06 10:08:45 UTC
Beat General wrote:
Lykouleon wrote:
Beat General wrote:
Why would a carrier refit a small shield booster? Stop being stupid.

Sir, you imply all people in EVE actually know how to correctly fit ships.

Sir, you are wrong. Hilariously wrong.


Even the dumbest eve player will realize that a small shield booster doesn't do **** for a capital class vessel.

I refuse to believe that somebody who has trained to carrier doesn't understand what a small shield booster is for.

Fugazi KM.


Keep believing that if it makes you feel better. You're still wrong though.

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Beat General
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-10-06 10:10:00 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
Copy the original mail, post the mail in the OP. It's permitted to post the mail if you remove the name of the victim


I lost it because of CCP.