EVE General Discussion

Because the myriad changes are some of the numerous things they want to fix in the existing game.

Original you say? your original post and arguments are hardly original.

FYI I'm a hisec player that runs missions etc, to be frank (hi frank 0/ you can have your name back in a bit) hisec NPC's are laughably easy to beat.

Propaganda is a tool for influencing the general populace, governments use it, companies use it and in the case of Eve the null alliances use it extremely well. If I bought into any of propaganda I read I'd spend all my cash on useless crap, play WoW and never have even heard of Eve.

1 - UI improvements are being done bit by bit, Inferno had the complete remake of the FW UI system and gave us kill reports and war reports, those are pretty awesome. In retribution from what we've seen so far we're getting a revamped bounty office UI and Crimewatch is getting new symbols to denote our security/criminal status.

2 - They bandaided that with the alchemy because they knew they couldn't do nothing. Based on what Soundwave has said their plans revolve around making ring mining be a new source of moon goo, problem is that the team that would be responsible for such a project is being used to revamp POSes first.

3 - These are still the come, they have already mentioned that they are holding off such a major change int he skill tree until all the ships that would be effected by such changed have been re-balenced properly

4 - I can't speak for this one as I haven't been really tearing into every resource I can about FW changes cause I don't do FW but from what I've seen on the rest of this thread there are quite a few things that have already been mentioned. And besides, with all the stuff that CCP has done with Inferno regarding FW you can hardly say they're ignoring it.

As for the general sentiment that they're adding new things instead of fixing old ones....
- CCP has stated over and over lately (especially at this year's fanfest) that they are make sure to have a better balance of new stuff and fixes, they know that doing all one or the other makes no one happy. Thus there will ALWAYS be new stuff, stop bitching about it.
- The bounty system is a VERY broken thing that is being fixed here
- Crimewatch can also be described as a fix for the existing system that has all sorts of loopholes for aggression and has confusing rules for new players to learn
- All the ship changes (aside from the new dessies) are also a fix to the existing system. 90% of the ships in the game aren't being used? Yeah that's broken. And since the old mining frigates are being respeced to be logi boats the new ORE frigate is here to replace them.
- There is also the POS revamp, again this is a fix to a horribly outdated system, ask any WHer. While this feature hasn't been mentioned as being a part of Retribution it has been talked about a lot, especially after the CSM minutes came out and could still be made part of Retribution 1.0 in the next two months, if not then maybe a 1.1 or 1.2 version. (Kinda like how Minmatar V3 was 1.1 and Angels were in 1.2 of Inferno

when I grow up, I wanna be a Nullsec zealot...

When I saw a NC. zealot gang fighting a xxDeath zealot gang (I think they were zealots, AHACs, right?) ... it was pretty with all the lasers.

Then we dropped void bombs on the NC. side and I hear it really got them annoyed.

I play Eve solo. It is my choice to do so, and I have always accepted the limitations my play style imposes on me.

I fly my Navy Domi for lvl 4 missions so that I can afford to do lo-sec pvp, at which I am hopeless, but enjoy a great deal.

If it becomes insanely difficult to fly lvl 4 missions solo in a drone boat, my Eve future looks very bleak.

Trying to make pve more like pvp in the hope that it will make the 'switch' from pve to pvp easier, is in my view a mistaken approach.

Solo pvp, is as many folk have pointed out, more or less dead. So, making solo mission running more like a solo pvp is simply impossible.

I have played Eve for too long and enjoy it too much to say these proposed changed will make me quit. I hope.

Why is it that some people are so adverse to change? I'm pretty sure that the AI-changes will affect missionrunning in a way. But in my opinion that's neither good nor bad, but just new. Missionrunners like myself will have to evaluate the changes, get used to the system and adapt their strategies. And if this whole AI-business means that missions will become more interesting and the possibility of losing my ship in a mission becomes real, that can only be a good thing. Risk/reward was always a little off in highsec-missionrunning, sice you practially can't lose your ship if you know your missions (or use eve survival) and fit your ship the way everybody tells you.

So what I'm trying to say is that up until now nobody really knows how the upcoming changes will affect the gameplay on the live-server. So we should just wait and see what really happens when the update's out.

I read this as:

"If my missions become more of a challenge, I think I'm going to give up the game".

I make my money from Ratting, I'll be effected by the AI change too. Also I currently use a drake to rat with HMLs, this may also change. If

OP should retire from posting

Op i don't know what you're complaining about,
- the last few patches have been nothing but iterations on existing systems that were broken or poorly designed. and balancing that was very much needed.
- UI is still being tweaked.
- it takes time to develop changes that effect thousands of players fairly and in a balanced manner, and also time to code it without exploitation loops. be ******* patient, go skill gal carrier 5 or something and stfu.
-everything that CCP does is focused on their customers, but they can't ******* please everyone; say your piece but don't blame them for not pleasing you, master of the ******* universe sir herpa derp.