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Weird combat issues
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Matthias Thullmann
Dynatron Inc.
#1 - 2012-09-29 02:48:21 UTC
Lately when I try to shoot rats my ship loses the ability to target without me being jammed.

Pic related
http://s10.postimage.org/n8y0t65vr/whats_going_on.png

As you can see, I'm not being jammed, yet a message keeps popping up saying I can't target anything.

What's going on?
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-09-29 02:56:21 UTC
It might be that damn incursion Blink

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#3 - 2012-09-29 02:58:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
You're flying a Thrasher, have you tried kicking it?

Seriously though, I have no idea why that's happening.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Braxus Deninard
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#4 - 2012-09-29 03:05:11 UTC
The only thing I can think of is it's because you're in an incursion. Hover over the local service distruptions and read them.

edit: damn beaten.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-09-29 03:40:11 UTC
Braxus Deninard wrote:
The only thing I can think of is it's because you're in an incursion. Hover over the local service distruptions and read them.

edit: damn beaten.


And keep mouthing off so I can beat you again Twisted

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Matthias Thullmann
Dynatron Inc.
#6 - 2012-09-29 04:57:55 UTC
Incursion disruptions are no cynos, no bounties, low resistances, and low damage. Says nothing about ECM, targeting, tracking and so on.
In fact at the time of that capture the last 2 disruptions were greyed out, which I think means they were inactive.

Normally it wouldn't bug me but I already lost a ship to this, so its kind of frustrating.
Braxus Deninard
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#7 - 2012-09-29 05:41:29 UTC
Have you tried in any other systems or on any other targets? Certainly seems like a bug, especially if for some reason you can't target anyone at all, anywhere.
Matthias Thullmann
Dynatron Inc.
#8 - 2012-09-29 14:18:01 UTC
It's affecting me in every incursion system since their rats are tougher. Normal belt rats I can generally take out in 1-2 shots, before any problems come up.

I'm going to try going into lowsec and see if it affects me on the rats there.
Matthias Thullmann
Dynatron Inc.
#9 - 2012-09-29 19:01:50 UTC
Example of it in a different system.
http://s16.postimage.org/kmwaniadf/Capture.png

Definitely a bug. My launcher range is 44km, targeting 52.8km, yet it refuses to fire.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#10 - 2012-09-29 19:11:37 UTC
Time to contact CCP, there's probably an option in petitions to report a bug.

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-09-29 22:55:32 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Time to contact CCP, there's probably an option in petitions to report a bug.


wat?

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Esna Pitoojee
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#12 - 2012-09-30 00:16:58 UTC
Matthias Thullmann wrote:
Example of it in a different system.
http://s16.postimage.org/kmwaniadf/Capture.png

Definitely a bug. My launcher range is 44km, targeting 52.8km, yet it refuses to fire.



While I can't speak to your first picture you posted, think I might know what the issue is here.

Your 44km launcher range - how are you finding that?
Pipa Porto
#13 - 2012-09-30 06:51:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Pipa Porto
The picture with the FOF's is because your targets are out of FOF range.

In the OP's picture, you're certainly getting jammed. That's the message you get when you're jammed.

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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#14 - 2012-09-30 08:34:58 UTC
You seem to be having bad desynch issues where what happens on the server and your client don;t match and thus you dont get any visual cues of being ECM jammed.

Try looking into packet loss issues.

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Matthias Thullmann
Dynatron Inc.
#15 - 2012-10-01 00:29:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Matthias Thullmann
Esna Pitoojee wrote:
Your 44km launcher range - how are you finding that?

Hovering over weapon.
I have velocity rigs, which increase range by 36.6% from the base 32km. Mainly for the huge edge in PvE, which is completely negated if I can't shoot them...

Pipa Porto wrote:
In the OP's picture, you're certainly getting jammed. That's the message you get when you're jammed.

I know, but there's no jamming symbol or other graphics. That's the rub.

Xercodo wrote:
Try looking into packet loss issues.

Would packet loss issues present that way? Never had that problem before.


Either way, its looking as though I'm the only one with this issue.
Esna Pitoojee
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#16 - 2012-10-01 01:54:22 UTC
Matthias Thullmann wrote:

Xercodo wrote:
Try looking into packet loss issues.

Would packet loss issues present that way? Never had that problem before.


Either way, its looking as though I'm the only one with this issue.



Yes, it can. Packet loss/desyncs can cause severe targeting issues. Normally it occurs only very briefly; extended packet loss typically results in a disconnect. It's possible you're on the threshold just below actually DCing, but still getting severe interference from the packet loss.
Matthias Thullmann
Dynatron Inc.
#17 - 2012-10-01 06:10:47 UTC
Esna Pitoojee wrote:
Yes, it can. Packet loss/desyncs can cause severe targeting issues. Normally it occurs only very briefly; extended packet loss typically results in a disconnect. It's possible you're on the threshold just below actually DCing, but still getting severe interference from the packet loss.


I tracked it down, you were right.

For anyone who has this issue in the future, remember not to play EvE while simultaneously being connected to a cloud which borrows your PC bandwidth and CPU.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#18 - 2012-10-02 17:38:44 UTC
Matthias Thullmann wrote:
Esna Pitoojee wrote:
Yes, it can. Packet loss/desyncs can cause severe targeting issues. Normally it occurs only very briefly; extended packet loss typically results in a disconnect. It's possible you're on the threshold just below actually DCing, but still getting severe interference from the packet loss.


I tracked it down, you were right.

For anyone who has this issue in the future, remember not to play EvE while simultaneously being connected to a cloud which borrows your PC bandwidth and CPU.

Gaming while there are intensive processes in the background is a bad idea, confirming. Glad you figured it out, OP, that was a really weird problem.

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Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#19 - 2012-10-03 10:20:57 UTC
Matthias Thullmann wrote:
Esna Pitoojee wrote:
Yes, it can. Packet loss/desyncs can cause severe targeting issues. Normally it occurs only very briefly; extended packet loss typically results in a disconnect. It's possible you're on the threshold just below actually DCing, but still getting severe interference from the packet loss.


I tracked it down, you were right.

For anyone who has this issue in the future, remember not to play EvE while simultaneously being connected to a cloud which borrows your PC bandwidth and CPU.


Good to know, thanks for clearing it up.