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Meiyi Family Holdings Public Announcement

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Evelyn Meiyi
Corvidae Trading and Holding
#1 - 2012-09-30 10:31:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Evelyn Meiyi
Ladies and Gentlemen of New Eden,

It is my distinct pleasure to make the following announcement.

Earlier today, after making an inspection, I have ordered the release of 75 slaves on their own recognizance. These 75 have displayed exceptional piety, strong dedication to the Faith, and are now considered Reclaimed under God's grace.

Effective immediately, those 75 slaves are permitted the opportunity to choose for themselves whether to continue their work in the Kingdom, or return to spread their new-found faith to their fellows on their respective home worlds.

Those that choose to leave Kingdom space will not be detained or waylaid; citizenship will be offered to those that wish to remain.

This I do in the name of my Faith and the Kingdom.

In God's Grace,

Lady Evelyn Meiyi
CEO, Meiyi Family Holdings, Inc.
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#2 - 2012-09-30 11:36:35 UTC
It's always good and inspiring to see there is still hope for those of Matar's children and that it is possible for them to redeem themselves in the eyes of God.

Congratulations on your success.
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Lucius Vindictus
Arachnos
#3 - 2012-09-30 16:27:00 UTC
This is good news. I will include these new citizens in my prayers today. I wish them good luck in finding their own place in the Kingdom or elsewhere.
Astroyka
IXXAXAAR
#4 - 2012-09-30 16:50:23 UTC
While freeing of anyone in any kind of servitude is a good thing I do have a few questions and worries for the safety of said "slaves":

1) Did you use vitoc to subjugate your "slaves"
2) Are you providing any on going support, financial or otherwise, to assist your benevolent release of the "slaves"?
3) Do you have more "slaves", and what are their condition?

Astroyka

A New Eden pilot, fighting against slavery in New Eden

www.astroyka.net

@Astroyka

Amaki Mai
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-09-30 17:15:27 UTC
I'll leave Lady Meiyi to speak about the official policies of Meiyi Family Holdings, but I will say that in the time I've known her and the shorter time I've been associated with her professionaly I have never witnessed her using Vitoc, nor excessive punishment with her Slaves.

Some of the staff I have sourced through her have come to me out of very poor beginnings and backgrounds and it has been my pleasure to follow her example and provide them with an environment of stability, opportunity and peace in which to overcome the shortcomings of their upbringing.
Evelyn Meiyi
Corvidae Trading and Holding
#6 - 2012-09-30 18:58:16 UTC
Astroyka wrote:
While freeing of anyone in any kind of servitude is a good thing I do have a few questions and worries for the safety of said "slaves":

1) Did you use vitoc to subjugate your "slaves"
2) Are you providing any on going support, financial or otherwise, to assist your benevolent release of the "slaves"?
3) Do you have more "slaves", and what are their condition?



As Captain Mai noted, I find the use of Vitoxin distasteful -- nobody will find God through the use of poisons. For those former slaves that wish to remain in the Kingdom, work placement is available through my staff, and there are numerous planetside businesses that are hiring at the moment.

As to the conditionm of my remaining slaves -- again, I do not approve of abusive behavior. Punishment is carried out when justified, and not simply for the sake of violence.

I notice that you put "slaves" in quotations. Might I ask your reasoning?
Spoon Thumb
RADIO RAMPAGE
#7 - 2012-09-30 19:42:49 UTC
It's always unfortunate when a company or house finds its assets are no longer profitable, but I suppose releasing human capital will at least have the benefit of boosting consumption in the Kingdom
Astroyka
IXXAXAAR
#8 - 2012-09-30 20:03:33 UTC
Evelyn Meiyi wrote:
As Captain Mai noted, I find the use of Vitoxin distasteful -- nobody will find God through the use of poisons. For those former slaves that wish to remain in the Kingdom, work placement is available through my staff, and there are numerous planetside businesses that are hiring at the moment.

As to the conditionm of my remaining slaves -- again, I do not approve of abusive behavior. Punishment is carried out when justified, and not simply for the sake of violence.

I notice that you put "slaves" in quotations. Might I ask your reasoning?


While I'm sure your "god" directs you to be a kind and thoughtful overseer of your subjugated workforce, the fact you can't see the difference between an employee and a "slave" speaks volumes. I use quotation marks to identify that while you think you're treating "human beings" with reverence and kindness they are still slaves to you, and were probably ripped from their lives in Matar at some point.

You seem to be an enlightened Amarrian, freeing "slaves" is a bold step in the right direction as is your aversion to the use of vitoc, but I have to question your logic, why the need for "slaves"; why not simply hire staff from the myriad of jobless citizens across New Eden?

I assume you need to "save" souls by some divine calling and paying a workforce would contradict that edict, not to mention a paid workforce would probably tell you where to stick your divine intervention.

I don't want to detract from the good deed you are doing here (I'm sure your "god" will be happy), but I suggest you consider using a paid workforce then you won't be feeding the slavery industry that your government clearly prospers from.

If you have further acts of kindness to perform such as releasing the rest of your, shall we say, grateful employees, I would be happy to liaise with you along with Ushra'Khan council to repatriate or assist any freed to find their family or simply to return to Matari space.



Astroyka

A New Eden pilot, fighting against slavery in New Eden

www.astroyka.net

@Astroyka

Amaki Mai
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-09-30 20:05:41 UTC
There's a shortage of Slaves in the Kingdom, so finding enthusiastic owners who will value them and provide them with the opportunity to excel at important work is seldom a problem.
Evelyn Meiyi
Corvidae Trading and Holding
#10 - 2012-09-30 21:08:30 UTC
Astroyka wrote:

While I'm sure your "god" directs you to be a kind and thoughtful overseer of your subjugated workforce, the fact you can't see the difference between an employee and a "slave" speaks volumes. I use quotation marks to identify that while you think you're treating "human beings" with reverence and kindness they are still slaves to you, and were probably ripped from their lives in Matar at some point.

You seem to be an enlightened Amarrian, freeing "slaves" is a bold step in the right direction as is your aversion to the use of vitoc, but I have to question your logic, why the need for "slaves"; why not simply hire staff from the myriad of jobless citizens across New Eden?

I assume you need to "save" souls by some divine calling and paying a workforce would contradict that edict, not to mention a paid workforce would probably tell you where to stick your divine intervention.

I don't want to detract from the good deed you are doing here (I'm sure your "god" will be happy), but I suggest you consider using a paid workforce then you won't be feeding the slavery industry that your government clearly prospers from.

If you have further acts of kindness to perform such as releasing the rest of your, shall we say, grateful employees, I would be happy to liaise with you along with Ushra'Khan council to repatriate or assist any freed to find their family or simply to return to Matari space.


To address these two points, in particular....

I have a paid staff -- it is Meiyi Family Holdings, after all. And yes, God directed my people to Reclaim New Eden in His name. Beyond that, however, using a paid workforce has certain disadvantages -- namely, that they must be paid,whereas slaves are working for the greater glory of the Faith.

As slaves are, in effect, indentured to God's service, it makes sense that they should work to prove themselves worthy of being Reclaimed. I see no better way to do so than putting them to work in the Club and on my Ranch.

I appreciate your offer, and I will take it under advisement. At this time, however, I have no intention of emancipating my slaves without due cause.
Astroyka
IXXAXAAR
#11 - 2012-09-30 21:12:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Astroyka
Amaki Mai wrote:
There's a shortage of Slaves in the Kingdom, so finding enthusiastic owners who will value them and provide them with the opportunity to excel at important work is seldom a problem.


I'm glad there is a shortage, we work hard to reduce the supply.

Astroyka

A New Eden pilot, fighting against slavery in New Eden

www.astroyka.net

@Astroyka

Astroyka
IXXAXAAR
#12 - 2012-09-30 21:24:29 UTC
Evelyn Meiyi wrote:
I have a paid staff -- it is Meiyi Family Holdings, after all. And yes, God directed my people to Reclaim New Eden in His name. Beyond that, however, using a paid workforce has certain disadvantages -- namely, that they must be paid,whereas slaves are working for the greater glory of the Faith.


Ahh, nice to see your double standards for the rest of your "heathen" work force, I guess they are not worthy of your gods good grace?

Evelyn Meiyi wrote:
As slaves are, in effect, indentured to God's service, it makes sense that they should work to prove themselves worthy of being Reclaimed. I see no better way to do so than putting them to work in the Club and on my Ranch.


...

Evelyn Meiyi wrote:
I appreciate your offer, and I will take it under advisement. At this time, however, I have no intention of emancipating my slaves without due cause.


Lets hope your remaining subjugated are "reclaimed" quickly.

Astroyka

A New Eden pilot, fighting against slavery in New Eden

www.astroyka.net

@Astroyka

Evelyn Meiyi
Corvidae Trading and Holding
#13 - 2012-09-30 21:31:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Evelyn Meiyi
Astroyka wrote:

Ahh, nice to see your double standards for the rest of your "heathen" work force, I guess they are not worthy of your gods good grace?


I find it interesting that paying my family, who have already embraced the Faith, and not paying a slave that has not yet done so, is considered a 'double-standard'. Nor did I miss the sly jab you made at my family -- though they are by no means 'heathens'.

Astroyka wrote:

...


I will assume, from your silence, that you have no rebuttal to my statement.

Astroyka wrote:

Lets hope your remaining subjugated are "reclaimed" quickly.


It is always my fond hope that a soul will find God without undue delay.
Shiroh Yatamii
Alexylva Paradox
#14 - 2012-09-30 22:06:11 UTC
I do not understand the questioning. She freed them because in doing so the net utility of the Kingdom's society goes up. Freed-men are less likely to incite violence, and trained workers are invaluable to any nation. While it is true that an employer would have to pay the individuals (so that they may live in a building, eat food, etc), such expenditures were already being made by Meiyi (she housed, fed them). The only thing that changed was the involvement of a fiat currency.

Sounds like a win-win to me, in any case.
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#15 - 2012-09-30 22:28:03 UTC
Shiroh Yatamii wrote:
I do not understand the questioning. She freed them because in doing so the net utility of the Kingdom's society goes up. Freed-men are less likely to incite violence, and trained workers are invaluable to any nation. While it is true that an employer would have to pay the individuals (so that they may live in a building, eat food, etc), such expenditures were already being made by Meiyi (she housed, fed them). The only thing that changed was the involvement of a fiat currency.

Sounds like a win-win to me, in any case.



Yeah, good luck explaining such rationale to a Republican like Astroyka.
Criminals and terrorists won't look kindly to your words, mr. Yatamii.
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#16 - 2012-10-01 12:20:42 UTC
Astroyka wrote:
While freeing of anyone in any kind of servitude is a good thing I do have a few questions and worries for the safety of said "slaves":

1) Did you use vitoc to subjugate your "slaves"


If a holder needs to use Vitoc on a slave, then it seems to me that the slave is probably not the sort of person who is ready for freedom.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#17 - 2012-10-02 14:23:49 UTC
Leopold Caine wrote:
Shiroh Yatamii wrote:
I do not understand the questioning. She freed them because in doing so the net utility of the Kingdom's society goes up. Freed-men are less likely to incite violence, and trained workers are invaluable to any nation. While it is true that an employer would have to pay the individuals (so that they may live in a building, eat food, etc), such expenditures were already being made by Meiyi (she housed, fed them). The only thing that changed was the involvement of a fiat currency.

Sounds like a win-win to me, in any case.



Yeah, good luck explaining such rationale to a Republican like Astroyka.
Criminals and terrorists won't look kindly to your words, mr. Yatamii.


Ha

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Dilaro thagriin
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-10-03 00:44:19 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
Astroyka wrote:
While freeing of anyone in any kind of servitude is a good thing I do have a few questions and worries for the safety of said "slaves":

1) Did you use vitoc to subjugate your "slaves"


If a holder needs to use Vitoc on a slave, then it seems to me that the slave is probably not the sort of person who is ready for freedom.




So... when you infect a slave with vitoxin they are not ready for freedom.
ok... what if they subsequently become ready?

vitoc will still be a daily reminder of the barbarism of the society they have chosen to join.
Last time i checked the only people with Insorum were the Elders
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#19 - 2012-10-03 05:36:24 UTC
Excellent news. I will add them to my prayers.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-10-03 06:26:25 UTC
There are 3 types of slavery. Mental, physical and financial. Being mentally enslaved is caused by how you are taught an idea, belief or decisions that you were born and grew up believing to be acceptable without outside objectivity.

Physical slavery is performing tasks for another and can also fall under mental slavery if the person isn't aware that what they are made to do is not by their own free will.

Failing to see just how wrong headed it is to see that a person or people subjected into physical or mental slavery. So if you are blind to that then you are beyond help.
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