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CCP needs a Grammarian

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Kult Altol
The Safe Space
#21 - 2012-09-30 16:11:20 UTC
Khorkrak wrote:
Lets stop devolving towards idiocracy!



Yet you read the oatmeal....

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Polly Oxford
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-09-30 16:15:19 UTC
You are so edgy by linking to Oatmeal and mentioning Idiocracy. Are you a Redditor by any chance? :allears:
Aurelius Valentius
Valentius Corporation
Valentius Corporation Alliance
#23 - 2012-09-30 17:42:18 UTC
Dear Sirs (and Madams as applicable)
CCP would do well to have someone with expert grammatical skills on staff, I am offended greatly by the lack of proper grammar with regard to the aforementioned localized client available to the general public, and the lack of proper review of all of the text in the game - which I like to read in my spare time while having tea with the wife and kids in the park, on a sunny day, in june or there abouts, on Sundays in my spare time... *ahem*. There are still quite a few ridiculous errors which greatly offend me in the way that only errors with words can and so I have written this strongly worded letter to voice my opinion on this matter in keeping with the best traditions of the British Empire... and it's commonwealths. Here is one example of these most agreedgeous transgressions of the written record. Perhaps the knowledge of your obvious and total incompetence with this subject will inspire you all to go back to grade school and learn about the history of the British Banking system, and the East India Company, in the meantime perhaps with a bit of help from the French you might want to clean up this a bit

Sincerly yours,
Sir, Everly B. Moosebottom, Esq.
Ginger Barbarella
#24 - 2012-09-30 18:23:39 UTC
Lowest common denominator works for many people.

/me wonders how many poasters will be googling that phrase here shortly

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac

Khorkrak
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#25 - 2012-09-30 19:03:30 UTC
So would you say at least 9/10 for this one?

Developer of http://www.decloaked.com and http://sourceforge.net/projects/pykb/

lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#26 - 2012-09-30 19:08:05 UTC
Khorkrak wrote:
In addition to having an economist on staff, CCP would do well to have someone with expert grammatical skills, one for each localized client available, review all of the text in the game. Still quite a few ridiculous errors. Here's one - post if you spot others. Perhaps we could inspire them to clean this up in the meantime.

Molting Season
The description of the typical unit seems to fit reality pretty well, assuming this was a typical colonization unit. A short inspection of the tracking device shows there is no time to loose, now there are two units in range, the closest one at location...

Here's something that'll help you remember how to avoid such embarrassing slip ups: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/misspelling



yes because no one makes mistakes and every single sentence in a game like this can be read by such people and fixed in short amounts of time.

Oh wait no that's not true that's why you can file a petition.

Spaceprincess

People who put passwords on char bazaar Eveboards are the worst.

Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#27 - 2012-09-30 20:34:57 UTC
The one thing I noticed.

Every response in this thread was meticulous.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."

Amitious Turkey
10kSubnautic
Warriors of the Blood God
#28 - 2012-09-30 22:24:33 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Khorkrak wrote:
In addition to having an economist on staff, CCP would do well to have someone with expert grammatical skills, one for each localized client available, review all of the text in the game.


This was fixed by someone else, but is a nice run on sentence.

Pot, meet kettle.


Welcome to English, where every rule has five dozen exceptions. His sentence could do with a semicolon, however.

I like to lick things.

Haunting the forums since 03.

Destru Kaneda
Arzad Police Department
#29 - 2012-09-30 22:33:20 UTC
There is no such thing as a semicolon.
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#30 - 2012-09-30 22:56:24 UTC
Destru Kaneda wrote:
There is no such thing as a semicolon.

There is no such thing as a semicolon; until; yes; until; you require your readers to take a much deeper breath than a comma.

It is often used because the context of the sentence will be broken with rather long-winded suppositions that would make the topic deviate from the intent and; phew; leave the reader gasping for air; even when said reader reads silently in their head.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."

Tech3ZH
Doomheim
#31 - 2012-09-30 23:45:33 UTC
Khorkrak wrote:
In addition to having an economist on staff, CCP would do well to have someone with expert grammatical skills



Sounds like a great idea! Except only the rules for Icelandic grammer would be used, just to make things interesting.
Oraac Ensor
#32 - 2012-10-01 00:26:05 UTC
Caviar Liberta wrote:
But what about the differences between British English and American English words? Which should CCP use?

American and British English spelling differences
The differences are actually between English and American English.

If anyone is tempted to read through that Wiki article, make sure you have ample supplies of salt handy - there's some real crap in there.

Mars Theran wrote:
American of course. UK English is getting out of date by global standards, and more people and organizations are moving to use of Americanized English. It applies to spelling and grammar, and you see more and more use of these new rules on forums, in manuals, and in technical writings everywhere.

People generally find them easier to understand and read, and prefer the less structured grammar to the extremely inundated grammar of traditional English. It's much easier to adapt to for those to whom the English language is a foreign language as well, I imagine.

I had to learn i myself, just a year or more ago, to avoid getting trolled off the forums here for my absurd use of grammar. Fortunately, it took me less than a month to adapt the use of it at the time, and I found people bother me less, and then not at all. School systems here still use traditional English of course, and I don't think that is going to change anytime soon.

Shakespearean English fairly well died, with exception to theater and medieval reenactment, and I don't see why the same won't happen to English used in the UK now eventually. Times change, languages adapt to a changing social environment and we all move on. No shame in that.

edit: The primary difference, is that one is much more like talking or holding a conversation than the other. Americanized English is much easier to read, and much easier to communicate in.
As a dual US/UK national, I have to say that's a load of rubbish. English is capable of taking a huge amount of mistreatment and yet still be capable of being understood, so using American English instead of the proper form doesn't make any difference most of the time. Sometimes the American version is much clumsier, as in "If I would have . . ." done whatever, instead of the much simpler "If I had . . ." etc.

Pyotr Kamarovi wrote:
Khorkrak wrote:
Thanks for the rewrite Mars - much better. The primary reason I posted this honestly was the use of loose. It irks me that people keep misspelling lose as loose. It's become so commonplace though.


I think you're mistaking double-tapping the "o" key and not proofreading for intentional ignorance.
"Lose" is spelt "loose" on about 90% of the occasions it appears in these forums, but I have never seen an incorrect double "o" in any other word. Are you expecting us to believe this strange "double-tapping" phenomenon only occurs when typing "lose" and nowhere else?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#33 - 2012-10-01 00:31:38 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
This was fixed by someone else, but is a nice run on sentence.
It's not a run-on sentence, though. It just uses commas where em-dashes would be more appropriate.

Destru Kaneda wrote:
There is no such thing as a semicolon.
English and some of its most prominent users disagree with you. Semicolons exist and have a number of semantically important purposes.
Oraac Ensor
#34 - 2012-10-01 00:38:45 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
This was fixed by someone else, but is a nice run on sentence.
It's not a run-on sentence, though. It just uses commas where em-dashes would be more appropriate.

. . . or brackets.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#35 - 2012-10-01 00:52:04 UTC
Heh.

If people go by 'which version is spoken by the most people', neither British or American English has a look in.

Just look at Indians, or the Chinese

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MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
#36 - 2012-10-01 03:24:56 UTC
Oraac Ensor wrote:
As a dual US/UK national, I have to say that's a load of rubbish. English is capable of taking a huge amount of mistreatment and yet still be capable of being understood, so using American English instead of the proper form doesn't make any difference most of the time. Sometimes the American version is much clumsier, as in "If I would have . . ." done whatever, instead of the much simpler "If I had . . ." etc.


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Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#37 - 2012-10-01 04:07:31 UTC
ISD Praetoxx wrote:
If you spot any errors in-game, then please submit a petition and provide as much detail as possible. In almost every patch, there are updates being made to fix such issues.


OUT OF MY WAY! THIS IS A GRAMMAR CORRECTION EMERGENCY!
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#38 - 2012-10-01 04:49:31 UTC
Quote:
so using American English instead of the proper form


Say what?!??

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Gillia Winddancer
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2012-10-01 11:02:34 UTC
Watcha´ll arguing ´bout ye primitive bums!
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#40 - 2012-10-01 11:29:30 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Heh.

If people go by 'which version is spoken by the most people', neither British or American English has a look in.

Just look at Indians, or the Chinese

Por favore!
Spanish senor?
El comprehende amigos?

Translates to

wtf?
What about Spanish fella?
You get what I'm sayin matey?

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."