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Dev blog: New Eden Open $10.000 Tournament

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CCP Navigator
C C P
C C P Alliance
#61 - 2012-09-28 16:09:45 UTC
Aineko Macx wrote:
Ship banning will cause lots of tears Twisted


We are hoping for lots of variety Blink
Hiram Alexander
State Reprisal
#62 - 2012-09-28 16:14:26 UTC
This being EVE 'n' all... Are there any metagame rules we should be aware of?, for example, should some Team Captain register their team, but trick their bunch of pilots into giving him/her 50 Plex for an auction bid that's never going to be paid, is that going to be a problem, or A-okay...?
Eiluvial
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#63 - 2012-09-28 16:14:43 UTC
CCP Navigator wrote:

I think you are looking at a hyper worst case scenario. While it is possible for a super rich alliance to attempt to buy every slot, it would not be cost effective for them to do so.

We are breaking new ground here with EVE tournaments and we will be analyzing every aspect of how teams are formed and how they participate in the event.


Yeah I doubt one team would buy out all spots (it's possible though), thats really hyper worst case.

What concerns me more is multiple alliances buying out all the spots, making it a "elite" Alliance Tournament, in which only a few alliances can participate.

Like PL throw in 5 teams, Goons do 3, Hydra a couple, etc. so maybe 10 alliances participate at most with the finals being similar to ATIX, a A-Team vs. B-Team final.
That scenario is possible and maybe likely. I'm sure most alliances who invested in ATX will enter multiple teams in this Tournament.
CCP Soundwave
C C P
C C P Alliance
#64 - 2012-09-28 16:15:45 UTC
Bloodpetal wrote:
CCP Navigator wrote:


I think you are looking at a hyper worst case scenario. While it is possible for a super rich alliance to attempt to buy every slot, it would not be cost effective for them to do so.

We are breaking new ground here with EVE tournaments and we will be analyzing every aspect of how teams are formed and how they participate in the event.



Why isn't it cost effective? Even at 50% conversion rate from ISK to US$ that's better than 0 conversion rate.

I would take a trillion ISK and buy all the teams to make $10,000. Because if I can make a trillion, I can make a trillion more.


Sure, but we're going to be even harsher on colluding and foul play this year, so any sign that you're even remotely doing that and you're getting disqualified (and we'll keep the plexes of course)
Takeshi Yamato
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#65 - 2012-09-28 16:16:42 UTC
This should be fun, can't wait for it.
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#66 - 2012-09-28 16:18:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Bloodpetal
Let's look at the idea from the individual to have the PLEX cost split amongst everyone on a team.


SO, you come in with 16 guys (8 mains and 8 backups) who each put down 2 plex each to get 32 plex on the table for the bidding.

That's gonna be around $35 each or 1.2B PLEX at current prices (i'm sure people are buying PLEX already, I am).

To have a chance at splitting EDIT : $6,000 over 16 people, minus the estimated average bidding, which is $544 = 5456 a prize of $341 each. Which, is almost as much as the whole team together put into the pot each. So, a 1 in 32 chance (random draw) to get 10 times your money back.

Go play a lotto, better chance of winning better prizes.

We're not even considering gaming the system to have 10 PL teams in. At which point everyone is gonna get screwed.

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Warde Guildencrantz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#67 - 2012-09-28 16:18:47 UTC
CCP Navigator wrote:
Aineko Macx wrote:
Ship banning will cause lots of tears Twisted


We are hoping for lots of variety Blink


a team consisting of only navy ospreys, navy exqurors, navy augorors, and fleet scythes

O_o

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Azrin Stella Oerndotte
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#68 - 2012-09-28 16:20:28 UTC
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Once you have a player character on a team, attempting to place another character on a second team will result in disqualification for both of those teams. For example, if you join team A with one of your accounts and then attempt to join Team B with a second account, both teams will be disqualified.


Can't this be abused to tears or am I missing something?
Djakku
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2012-09-28 16:23:31 UTC
CCP Sreegs wrote:
Warde Guildencrantz wrote:
why is it always big alliances that can only get into these and not people who do small gang PvP that don't have huge corps/alliances and 10bil isk lying around to enter the auction


This tournament has nothing to do with alliances whatsoever. What we do have is a cost of entry in order to ensure that those who are stating they wish to compete have enough skin in the game to take it seriously. Over the long term we would definitely like to have alternative methods of doing so but we simply don't have any other option at this time.


Are Hydra banned from this aswell?
Eiluvial
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#70 - 2012-09-28 16:24:29 UTC
Azrin Stella Oerndotte wrote:
Quote:
Once you have a player character on a team, attempting to place another character on a second team will result in disqualification for both of those teams. For example, if you join team A with one of your accounts and then attempt to join Team B with a second account, both teams will be disqualified.


Can't this be abused to tears or am I missing something?


You mean like my spies entering in Alliance B's multiple teams (without said Alliance knowing that they're alts) will get all of that Alliances teams banned?

Yeap :3: should make for hilarious metagaming.
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#71 - 2012-09-28 16:25:40 UTC
Eiluvial wrote:
Azrin Stella Oerndotte wrote:
Quote:
Once you have a player character on a team, attempting to place another character on a second team will result in disqualification for both of those teams. For example, if you join team A with one of your accounts and then attempt to join Team B with a second account, both teams will be disqualified.


Can't this be abused to tears or am I missing something?


You mean like my spies entering in Alliance B's multiple teams (without said Alliance knowing that they're alts) will get all of that Alliances teams banned?

Yeap :3: should make for hilarious metagaming.


Nice thinking.

Where I am.

Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#72 - 2012-09-28 16:26:10 UTC
Djakku wrote:
CCP Sreegs wrote:
Warde Guildencrantz wrote:
why is it always big alliances that can only get into these and not people who do small gang PvP that don't have huge corps/alliances and 10bil isk lying around to enter the auction


This tournament has nothing to do with alliances whatsoever. What we do have is a cost of entry in order to ensure that those who are stating they wish to compete have enough skin in the game to take it seriously. Over the long term we would definitely like to have alternative methods of doing so but we simply don't have any other option at this time.


Are Hydra banned from this aswell?


Yes

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CCP Navigator
C C P
C C P Alliance
#73 - 2012-09-28 16:26:43 UTC
Azrin Stella Oerndotte wrote:
Quote:
Once you have a player character on a team, attempting to place another character on a second team will result in disqualification for both of those teams. For example, if you join team A with one of your accounts and then attempt to join Team B with a second account, both teams will be disqualified.


Can't this be abused to tears or am I missing something?


Potentially it could, however, the severity of penalties applied to player accounts who participate in this action should not be ignored.

Fake edit: They are severe.
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#74 - 2012-09-28 16:27:41 UTC
Dierdra Vaal wrote:
Will the broadcasts also include player commentators & studio like the AT?

Will player adverts be allowed like the AT?


Can we have this question answered please.

I'll stop being a punk about the whole situation, I'll just tell you that I know a lot of people are plugging a lot of numbers in right now.

Oh, and prediction is PL wins.

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Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#75 - 2012-09-28 16:28:49 UTC
CCP Navigator wrote:
Azrin Stella Oerndotte wrote:
Quote:
Once you have a player character on a team, attempting to place another character on a second team will result in disqualification for both of those teams. For example, if you join team A with one of your accounts and then attempt to join Team B with a second account, both teams will be disqualified.


Can't this be abused to tears or am I missing something?


Potentially it could, however, the severity of penalties applied to player accounts who participate in this action should not be ignored.

Fake edit: They are severe.


Why should they be severe?

What is breaking the EULA on a tournament like this?

Or are we getting a new EULA specifically with this tournament written into the agreement?

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nGR RDNx
Beta Crucis
Endeavour.
#76 - 2012-09-28 16:29:12 UTC
As one of a handful of people who attended the eSport session at this year’s EVE Fanfest, I am both excited and disappointed by this event.

Will be watching with interest of how it goes.


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Eiluvial
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#77 - 2012-09-28 16:30:03 UTC
Warde Guildencrantz wrote:
why is it always big alliances that can only get into these and not people who do small gang PvP that don't have huge corps/alliances and 10bil isk lying around to enter the auction


10bil isk was like the budget for PLs ammo in ATIX, money is one of the last problems you should have when competing seriously for 1st place Lol
DoubleD231
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#78 - 2012-09-28 16:30:16 UTC  |  Edited by: DoubleD231
I love how this blog opens talking about how this tourny is meant to include the people in NPC corps and yet, with that price point, I'd be willing to wager a lot of money on every entrant being from a large nullsec alliance.

I appreciate that there is not much in the way of other options, but still, got me all excited for nothing :(

A wild and whacky idea would be put a team in from each of the 4 major races, cos they would ofc want in on all teh luvely monies :D :D lol.
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#79 - 2012-09-28 16:30:36 UTC
Its $6000 for the winning team so its worse then you have been saying lol

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.

TAHKEP
Space Fiber Weavers
#80 - 2012-09-28 16:32:45 UTC
Dierdra Vaal wrote:
Warde Guildencrantz wrote:
why is it always big alliances that can only get into these and not people who do small gang PvP that don't have huge corps/alliances and 10bil isk lying around to enter the auction


Technically it's now just limited to people who have 20+ plex laying around - alliance or not.


Dont be so fail, youve got a huge heads up about it, and if your telling me a team of 10 people cant make 20bil to make a bid in the time you have, then you probably arent good enough for this contest.